Sluggish acceleration from a complete stop

Tiny
JAKEK27
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  • 2002 FORD FALCON
  • 4.0L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 186,000 MILES
It doesn’t roll forward by itself either. Revs normally when in park or neutral but when in drive one foot on brake and over accelerating revs won’t go past 2,500 RPMs.
Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 4:08 AM

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Tiny
BORIS K
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Hello,

The limited RPMs you experience when selecting D and applying the footbrake is caused by the torque converter in the automatic transmission. It is called torque converter stall.
Torque converter stall speed is the maximum amount of engine RPMs that can be achieved in an automatic transmission-equipped vehicle while the transmission is in a forward operating range without generating any driveshaft motion. This limited RPMs is normal. See image 1 below for a torque converter exploded view.

You mentioned that the vehicle does not roll by itself. Have you tried engaging N and pushing the vehicle by hand? It should roll freely with the hand brake off. If not, I would suggest to jack up each corner of the vehicle, securing it with axle stands, and then checking if the wheels can be rotated easily by hand.

You can also carry out a short road test and apply the brakes quite hard several times.
Then stop and check if you can feel a wheel is hotter than the others. this would indicate that the wheels and brakes are binding.

A good video:
https://youtu.be/ySQuETuEhxY

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Boris
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Tuesday, June 14th, 2022 AT 9:20 AM
Tiny
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About a week ago it revved all the way up while in drive, since then been working fine for about 5 minutes in the mornings then back to slow acceleration. Pretty much have to put pedal to the floor to come off the curb. Could this mean the converter is faulty?
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Saturday, June 18th, 2022 AT 3:04 AM
Tiny
BORIS K
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Hello,

Just to clarify, you managed to rev the engine all the way to limiter while the transmission was in D, and you were holding the brakes? If so, then this would point towards a possible torque converter fault.

Have you checked the transmission oil level?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-and-add-transmission-fluid

The transmission fluid color should be red or slightly off red/brown and the correct level on dipstick depending on temperature.

Cheers, Boris
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Monday, June 20th, 2022 AT 12:35 AM
Tiny
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Yes, I’ve gotten it to hit limiter while in drive and foot on brake, oil is the first thing I checked, removed full plug dribbled out, still brand-new oil as was changed only 5,000km ago.
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Monday, June 20th, 2022 AT 1:35 AM
Tiny
BORIS K
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Hello,

On an automatic transmission equipped vehicle, it is normally not possible to hit the limiter when in D, stationery and holding the brakes. This would point towards an issue with the torque converter

It would be best to visit your local transmission specialist in this regard.

Let us know if you require any more assistance.

Cheers, Boris
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Monday, June 20th, 2022 AT 1:51 AM

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