Air conditioner is not working

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It is done from under the hood at the firewall. Recover all the Freon, remove the bolt that secures the two lines to the expansion valve and then remove the two bolts that hold the expansion valve to the EVAP core.

Make sure you change the dryer as well.

Roy
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I can turn on magnetic clutch with diagnostic machine and A/C blows cold when I unplug machine it turns compressor off.
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Great. Does not look too hard. Thank you for all your help! I will order the parts and report back when I get it done!
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Hello,

This sounds like it could be the relay that controls your A/C compressor has gone bad. I have already given you the relay information in the fuse and relay panels diagrams and callouts earlier, so you should be able to find it there. Here is a link for you to go to that will help you, if needed, bench test the relay:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Please go through these guides, if necessary, and get back to us with what you can figure out.

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Alex
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Great. Look forward to hearing from you.

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Checked all fuses and replaced relay and still no power to compressor.
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Hi, Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you! I changed the Expansion Valve and the Compressor still didn't turn on. After researching the problem so more I found someone who had a Lexus who had the same problem and also got the B1479 code. Toyota has a TSB about it T-SB-0084-13. The Flow sensor has to have 3.8v with the AC OFF in order to have the amplifier tell the compressor to kick in! (mine was 3.59v) Toyota recommend changing the compressor because they don't sell the Flow sensor! I was able to find the Sensor on ebay for $50 and decided to try and change it myself!

I had to take off the front bumper, ac condenser(replaced drier) and radiator to get easy access to the Flow sensor on the compressor ( you may be able get to the sensor by just taking out the radiator) . I took the snap ring off the sensor and tried to lift up the sensor but it was frozen and broke off when I pulled up on it. I had to use a chisel to get the rest of it out. I noticed there was a lot of what looked like white rust or corrosion there so I scrapped out what I could and sanded it down so the new one would seat properly ! ( maybe The white rust was making the sensor not read correctly?). I got the new one in and put the snap ring on and then I checked it with Techstream and got a reading of 3.86v.(above the 3.8v min needed)! My old one was 3.59v!

I put everything back together and charged the system and the AC works now. A lot of work for such a simple part! I read the problem is with many Toyota models and years starting in 2009! Crazy how they let the problem last so long without addressing it and making people pay for a new compressor!

I just thought I would let you know in case someone else runs into the same problem!

TSB https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2013/SB-10061590-2280.pdf

Here's a couple of pictures of the before and after Techstream Flow sensor readings!
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Hello again,

Okay, the problem could be in your vehicle's A/C Amplifier. In the diagrams down below I have included a wiring diagram of your vehicle's A/C circuit as well as directions for the removal, inspection, and installation of the A/C Amplifier, which is located in the center of your vehicle's dashboard. Please go through these guides and get back to us with what you are able to find out.

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Good job.

I was more concerned that with the high going up to high, it would effect the signal voltage and that is why you had a bad reading with the old one.

If it did not change after the expansion valve replacement then the sensor was the next step.

Roy
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Checked everything still no A/C the diagram says automatic A/C is it the same for manual A/C?
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Just a clarification. The Flow Sensor needs to be checked with the AC off! Voltage has to be between 3.8 volts and 4.2 volts. If below that then the flow sensor is bad.

Thanks for all the help.
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Hello again,

I'm sorry about that. Here are the wiring diagrams for the Manual A/C. They are located, as usual, in the diagrams down below. Please go through them and get back to us with what you are able to find out.

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A/C gets cold when accelerating, sometimes it will also get warm when driving. If I'm parked it will get warm and sometimes it stays blowing cold. I checked the A/C Freon level with my gauge and it's full. The A/C is just unpredictable. Any suggestions?
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Correct.
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This sounds like the compressor has gone out or the system is low on charge or a fuse is bad, these videos and guides can help us fix the problem with diagrams below to show you how on your car. I have included (below) the air conditioner wiring diagrams as well so you can see how the system works.

https://youtu.be/4UjfQKvrB6Y not working

and

https://youtu.be/uZrQCGwXfek recharge

and

https://youtu.be/yrhWKlQEPWw leak detection

and

https://youtu.be/4EqdrBVb0sY vacuum and recharge

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-air-conditioner-not-working-or-is-weak

Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.

Usually on a system that is proven to have a full charge, yet has issue cooling at times, cooling fans are the issue. At times a cooling fan can fail intermittently, usually after running for an extended period of time so I would pay close attention to it. Also make sure the front of the condenser is clean and clear of debris. When the vehicle is off, reach down and grab a blade of the fan and see how much play it has radially, it should have little to no play. If there is excessive play, then the fan/s are no good and must be replaced.
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I appreciate this very much. I will look at all these factors.
Thank you
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You're very welcome!
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