Shifting Issues

Tiny
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  • 1999 HONDA ACCORD
  • 2.3L
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  • FWD
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  • 230,000 MILES
I have been having issues with my EX model lately. Everything was good. It was driving fine, no issues and then one morning on my way to work it did not want to go into first gear then a little rough going into second. I was able to make it to work and back but it only seems to be rough getting into gear just when I am moving. No issues really when I am parked, throw it into first to get going, and cycle threw the gears initially but when I am driving and I am coming to a stop at a light, I will throw it in neutral then attempt first to get ready but it will not go. I have to find the sweet spot in the clutch pedal to get it into first (Which is about half way). Also, it shifts better with the car off for some reason.

I have checked the master/slave and everything looks good, no leaks and functional. I bled the line a little to make sure no air was in the line. Clutch is good, was replaced not too long ago. Replaced all fluids including transmission and clutch. It is high mileage but all highway and a lot of work done to it to keep up with it.

I am good with vehicles but not so much with manuals so was going to start with the master/slave replacement and go from there but any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thursday, March 30th, 2017 AT 4:52 PM

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Tiny
KEN L
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Hello,

It sounds like you have a clutch disc that is starting to come apart and a piece of the material is not letting the disc come to a complete stop.

Here is a guide that should help you.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/clutch-doesnt-work-sometimes-or-not-at-all

Please let us know what happens.

Best, Ken
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Monday, April 3rd, 2017 AT 10:15 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the advice. I actually took it to a garage already and they said nothing was wrong with it so I do not know if they even looked to much into it to tell you the truth. I tested the clutch though and it is still grabbing good, I also do not hear any rattling or anything like something broke off. The only noise I hear is a squeak coming from the fork when the slave is extended.

I just got done replacing the master/slave though, just have to bleed and adjust the pedal tonight. It had to be done soon anyway.
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Monday, April 3rd, 2017 AT 2:44 PM
Tiny
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Yes, if there is air in the system or the slave or fork is having a problem then the disc will not be fully disengaged. Also, so if there is an adjustment that can be extended to give you more travel.

Please let us know what happens.

Best, Ken
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Monday, April 3rd, 2017 AT 2:48 PM
Tiny
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Do you know if it could possibly be the linkage some how. I can always take apart the shifter housing on top of the transmission that the select/shift cables attach to if it is not too hard.
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Monday, April 3rd, 2017 AT 2:48 PM
Tiny
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Okay I will. Thanks for the reply.
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Monday, April 3rd, 2017 AT 2:49 PM
Tiny
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Well, I replaced the slave/master and made sure all air got out. Slave is extending normal but still hear squeaking at the fork for some reason.

Still same issues tho. Mainly just first and reverse giving me issues. Can shift into any gear at a stop but when lets say I am coming to the light, I will put clutch down then pop it into first to get ready but wont go. I either have to wait until I am at a complete stop or find the sweet spot in the clutch pedal (Usually half way up to get into gear) so it pops in. If I try to force it a little, I feel the grinding like it is not disengaging properly.
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Tuesday, April 4th, 2017 AT 1:34 PM
Tiny
KEN L
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It sounds like it is the clutch disc being bent or coming apart and possibly a fork pivot worn down. It sounds like you will need to remove the transmission to inspect.

Please let us know what happens.

Best, Ken
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Tuesday, April 4th, 2017 AT 6:26 PM

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