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Throttle Actuator Control Stuck closed Problem

Tiny
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  • 2006 FORD E-SERIES VAN
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  • 195,000 MILES
I went for engine wash and upon starting the van, it starts with fluctuations in idling but lacks acceleration and low engine power. Codes after scanning are p2110, p2104, p2107, p2112, po220, po708, p1200.I then bought a new pedal, a used throttle body. The vehicle now start with stable idle but no acceleration and now left with codes p2112 and p2104. If I put on the ignition without starting and press the accelerator pedal the throttle plate opens according to how I press but immediately I start it it went back to close position and I was told adequate fuel is not entering the injectors. The throttle wrench light is showing on the dash board.I have used another PCM from the same model, it start but cannot accelerate. Please help me out from this limp home mode. Thanks
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Wednesday, December 21st, 2011 AT 5:09 PM

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Tiny
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Put your old pcm back as you cannot exchange these units. It has to be flashed to your specific vehicle.
Did you remove the battery cable to clear the memory for the pcm?
I am concerned that your used throttle body is the issue here.

Roy
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Wednesday, December 21st, 2011 AT 5:23 PM
Tiny
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Thanks a lot.I have fix back my own pcm and I used my scanner to clear the codes p2112 and p2104 but they keep coming back but I dont know how to clear the codes using the battery method but I always remove the battery head evryday I also find out that enough fuel is not getting into the injectors the code Po193 use to appear frequently before but when I checked the fuel pressure sensor and plugged it in well the code dissapeared ever since or what could make enough fuel not get into d injectors and why will the throttle plate open at ignition on and remain closed after starting the engine. Thanks
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Thursday, December 22nd, 2011 AT 10:34 PM
Tiny
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Please when one or d two plug in switch d TPS and d TB motor switch is unplugged on d old Throttle body I removed d engine never goes off but it goes off when I do same on this used 'but looks clean' I fix d engine goes off immediately. Upon checking d live data now d throttle Position is 12.4 percent d RPM is 620 d engine load is 28 percent and Mass Air Flow Rate is 0.6 and Intake Air Temp is 109 to 112. Thanks
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Friday, December 23rd, 2011 AT 12:16 AM
Tiny
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Everytime you turn on the key, the fly by wire system tests itself. Thats why you see the throttle plate move.
If there is an issue with one of the motors on the throttle body, it will code. It is a common failure. The pedal sensor is also an issue. We always recommend replacing both together when issues like this come up. I would look at these first before moving on to the fuel control issue.

Roy
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Friday, December 23rd, 2011 AT 4:03 AM
Tiny
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Thanks. Now that the TB seems to have no problems if I get you right, what can be hapenning to the fuel issue since it is confirmed that enough fuel is not entering to the valve or injector and was told it is lack of current. What could be done?Even when I touch the
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Friday, December 23rd, 2011 AT 11:16 AM
Tiny
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Are you sure the throttle codes are gone? Have you road tested it for a complete drive cycle to confirm?

Roy
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Friday, December 23rd, 2011 AT 12:23 PM
Tiny
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No, the p2112 and p2104 codes are very much present. What I am saying is that what is actually the problem?Where else should I try after checking lots of things and no solution. Is it the lack of enough fuel entering into the injectors that can bring this codes or the PCM is reducing the fuel supply or what do you think is the real cause of this. Thanks
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Friday, December 23rd, 2011 AT 2:04 PM
Tiny
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Hi my friend, please since my last reply u have not responded.I really want to know where I should start from now since the codes p2112 and p2104 are still there and the throttle wrench light is still there. Thanks
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Tuesday, December 27th, 2011 AT 12:44 PM
Tiny
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What happens is the throttle actuator has a problem and shuts down closing the butterfly so the engine doesn't go on its own.

Here is a guide and some diagrams (below) on how to fix the van by replacing the throttle actuator.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/throttle-actuator-service

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-throttle-body-works

Clear the codes once completed.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/check-engine-light-clear-codes

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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