I have a 2002 Nissan Sentra GXE 1.8L with 16,600 miles. Car was driven by an older gentleman that passed away. Car sat for approximately 1 year (may have been moved occasionally). Bought a few months ago and have put 3,600 miles on it without any problems. Drove car a couple days ago for one hour at highway speeds. When I came to a stop, the idle started running very rough. The rough idle started all of a sudden, it did not get progressively worse over time. With the car in drive, the idle hunts constantly between 600 and 1000 rpm. With the car in park or neutral, the idle holds around 750 rpm, but is still a little rough. The car comes very close to stalling while in drive all the time, but has only actually stalled once. The check engine light has not come on and I do not have any stored codes. The car starts right up when it is cold, but it starts hard when it is hot. I usually have to press the gas pedal to get it to start when it is hot. The idle seems to work the same whether the car is hot or cold except that it starts out around 1100 rpm and quickly slows down to a rough idle at 750 in park when it is cold. I have seen it sometimes hunt for a little while and then settle down at 750 rpm when the car is hot and in park when it is first started. The car still drives very well at any speed above idle and the acceleration is good.
I tried cleaning the MAF and throttle body without any change (used the correct cleaners). Both the MAF and throttle body looked very clean before I cleaned them. I replaced the air filter when I bought the car and it looks good. I visually checked the vacuum hoses. I did not find any leaks. I pulled the PCV valve and it seemed to be working (rattles), but I cleaned it anyway. I checked the spark plugs and they all look good. I performed the idle air volume learning procedure without any change. I know there is a TSB for my model year car saying to replace the EGR if you have a rough idle, but it says it only applies to cars built later than mine (after 2/02 mine was built in 8/01). The service manual says to verify there is gap between the throttle drum and throttle opener rod at idle. It does not specify that the engine has to be cold when checking. When my car is cold, the rod pulls back and there is a gap. When the car is hot, the rod does not pull back and there is no gap. I verified there is a vacuum going to the throttle opener rod (hot and cold). The manual says to replace the throttle body if there is no gap, but it idles rough even when there is a gap. Does this test only apply when the car is cold?
Since the car is hard to start when it is hot, can I rule out the EGR and MAF? I do not have the tools to check for fuel pressure. Can I rule out fuel pressure since the car runs well at any speed above idle? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Wednesday, May 20th, 2020 AT 1:10 PM
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