Service engine soon light is on

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I have the XLT model. The "service engine soon" light keeps coming on. I understand this light may come on when the vehicle reaches a certain mileage. My vehicle has reached 125,000 and this light has been coming on/off around that mileage area. I disconnect the battery for several minutes and it is off, after a few days it returns.
i replaced everything in regards to electrical. Starter, plugs, plug wires, EGR valve, belt, belt tension-er belt pulley and alternator.

Maybe it is not engine problem? Maybe oxygen sensor, that was never changed.

what else could this be? Thank you in advance.
Sunday, April 17th, 2011 AT 11:09 PM

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Tiny
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Have the computer scanned for code/s-you have a problem within the engine management system that caused the CEL to turn on. This is your starting point of diagnosis, finding out what is going on.

Follow this guide to help find the problem code:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Please let us know happens so it will help others.
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Sunday, April 17th, 2011 AT 11:14 PM
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First of all, you are confusing the check engine light with the older "maintenance required" light that was used in the 1980's with truck emissions systems. The check engine light means the engine computer detected a problem and set a diagnostic fault code in memory. You erased those codes and lost that valuable information when you disconnected the battery.

Most of the parts you guessed at and replaced have nothing to do with the check engine light. Namely, the starter and generator have nothing to do with the engine sensors and emissions system. As Rasmatz indicated, having the fault codes read is the place to start. Many auto parts stores will do that for you for free. They will get you into the right circuit or system with the problem, not necessarily the defective part.
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Sunday, April 17th, 2011 AT 11:54 PM
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Change the wiper motor and brake light switch too as long as you are going to guess. There are a dozen computers on your truck all with multiple sensors and switches. Two computers are involved in blowing the horn. A computer is involved in running the power windows and locks.

There are over a mile of wires in your truck. Any one of them can rub through and short out. Computers commonly fail. Sensors can feed incorrect information to those computers. This is why mechanics must continually go for update training. Every time you replace some random part, you are introducing a new variable that can confuse multiple computers.

You are not going to solve this by replacing parts. Start by having the fault codes read. That will save you the expense of all the unnecessary parts.
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Monday, April 18th, 2011 AT 12:09 AM
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I was just guessing and replacing parts randomly. I did this because it was time to replace before they went and all replaced with Ford parts. I am going to the store today and get diagnosis. Thanks to all.
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Monday, April 18th, 2011 AT 12:18 PM
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Boy, I sure sounded sarcastic. Sorry about that. Do not do the "random" thing. That is the most expensive, least effective way to diagnose a problem. First of all, there are some parts that have a history of almost never needing to be replaced. Doing so is money wasted, but more importantly, everything you do or replace adds another variable to the problem. Some sensors require precise air gaps to work properly. If one is not set right, you could now have two problems. Also, many resistance sensors such as throttle position sensors and any temperature sensors will never have the same resistance between any two of them. The engine computer learns their characteristics by comparing their readings to other sensor readings. For one example, the computer knows that the coolant temperature sensor and the intake air temperature sensor have to be reading the same temperature after the engine has been off for at least six hours. When it sees a different resistance from one of them than it expects, it has to figure out which one changed and put that new set of values in memory. That will not occur if it thinks there is a problem with the other sensor so you could introduce a running problem just from removing a good sensor and replacing it with another good one.

The best approach, since the check engine light was on, means at least one diagnostic fault code has been stored in the engine computer and having them read will get you into the circuit or system with the problem. There might not even be a defective part. You could have an EGR, (emissions) tube that is plugged with carbon, a leak in the fuel supply system that is letting vapors evaporate, a sensor problem, or a sensor could be detecting a problem. Someone here will be able to give you direction once we know which fault codes were stored in the computer. Many auto parts stores will read them for you for free.
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Monday, April 18th, 2011 AT 9:54 PM
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LOL! Thanks for information going to a auto store this afternoon. I will say this, my Ford has 125,000 on it and it is seven years old, but looks show room condition. The truck took me home every time! And I went all over the place even in the mountains and it helped me drag my friends car out upstate New York. If it is something serious and costly it may be time to send it to its final resting place. We will see. And thank you for the input. Always appreciated!
Mario
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Tuesday, April 19th, 2011 AT 11:16 AM
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Seven years old is not time to retire it. I have three newer vehicles, (I mean newer than 1988), but I only trust my 1988 rusty trusty Grand Caravan to get me home after numerous cross-country trips. I regularly drag a tandem axle enclosed trailer that is bigger than the van, and it is only had one transmission fluid and filter change in its life of 225,000 miles. It did not get me home for the first time in its life a few months ago due to a bad ignition coil, but I had eleven months of warning with intermittent stalling.

To add to the abuse, I have not pulled the oil drain plug in over eight years! I add a quart about every 1,500 miles and change the filter, oh, about once every three years, if I am feeling generous! I would not dare treat my other cars like that.

The point that I am not making is I would rather see someone fix an older car vs. Buying something new. The engineers have figured out too many ways to cost us money with their current products and I refuse to have any part of it.
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Tuesday, April 19th, 2011 AT 11:17 PM
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So I have the SUV listed above XLT model and when I looked up your video it show different than I have. Mine has four wheel drive buttons there and no setup buttons. How do I reset my service engine soon?
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:31 PM (Merged)
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Well the proper way to do it would be to hook a scanner up to the data link connector port (below the dash, trapezoid shaped, see attached image) and have the scanner erase the code(s). You might as well get the trouble codes and write them down so we can diagnose the issue. You can buy an OBD2 scanner from Amazon or eBay for pretty cheap, or you can go to AutoZone, Advance Auto, or O'Reilly Auto Parts and have them scan and clear it for you. They do this for free. Also, here is our guide on the check engine light, which includes how to scan for codes: https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

The other option would be to disconnect the positive battery cable and touch it (the disconnected cable) to any ground or the negative battery terminal for about ten seconds. This will ground out any residual energy in the system and reset all of the computers (including the one with the codes).

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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:31 PM (Merged)
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The "service engine soon" light just came on. What is the sequence to follow to turn this light out. It came on as soon as the vehicle turned 50K.
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:31 PM (Merged)
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MASTERTECHTIM
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Its just coincidence it came on at 50 k. First we need to find out what the codes are. Autozone will scan the computer for free. Have this done and get back to us, dont wait just in case this problem might still be covered by factory emissions warranty. Hope this helps
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:31 PM (Merged)
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Check gauge light on and fuel reads empty. Turned off on me once, while at a red light and when driving it feels like it loses power. However, does not turn off, after a few seconds it keeps driving normal. Seller told me about a kill switch? Not sure if he was just hiding the real issue. Took car to get codes, however, they told me that it was way too many codes and all of them were transmission codes.
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:31 PM (Merged)
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Good afternoon.

Have the codes checked and again and get a print out and list them for me.

There is no such thing as a kill switch. There is an inertia switch for accidents and roll overs but since your car runs, that is not the issue.

Roy
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:31 PM (Merged)
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Computer problem
2004 Ford Explorer 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic

check engine light is on but no data from computer. Snapon scan tool is able to access air bag infomation from car's computer, but no other data can be retreived. Any ideas
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
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Hi there,

I have found with my snap on scanner that in some instances not all codes are read, although this is a very high quality unit, it dose have its hiccups, you may have to get a ford scanner to read this code, will the snap on unit do a code clear? May be do this and let the code re set and then re scan, I have had some success doing it this way.

Mark (mhpautos)
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
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Not sure really if the vehicle is front wheel drive or all wheel drive, but last night on the way home, the wrench light went on and the car slowed down to the "limp home" mode; however, this only works on straight aways because as soon as I hit an incline, I had to pull over onto the shoulder and call AAA to tow my car. The place where I get the car serviced said this morning that it is just a sensor that should have been reset the last time I had the oil changed - which they did! So, did they not reset it? Did they cause this? Anyway, hopefully this is an easy fix and doesn't cost me anything, especially if it was something they forgot to do. What else could this symbol mean?
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
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It is a check engine light. You need to have the computer scanned to identify where the problem is coming from. Most parts stores will do it for free.

Have that done and let me know what you find.

Joe
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
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My lite came on while I was driving I just wanna know before I get it to someplace to read it out is there something I
Can do to it that may have caused it to come on besides the basic stuff? It's running good.
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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
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Hello,

No it is nothing you have done. Most likely if your vehicle is running fine thenmost likely it is an O2 Sensor (Oxygen Sensor). You can go by your local auto parts store and have them pull codes, most will do it for free. Get the actual number code and post here for farther diagnostic help.

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Wednesday, January 6th, 2021 AT 12:32 PM (Merged)
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Why is my service engine light coming on in my 2004 ford explorer 4x2?
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