Lack of engine mpgs

Tiny
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  • 2001 CHEVROLET S-10
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4 cyl. 5 speed autmatic trans. Extended cab.
the problem I am having is. I have lost at least 4 mpgs. I have changed plugs & wires, air filter, fuel filter.
What it does every time I get under a load going up a hill. Even if I do not down shift, but especially when I down shift air comes through the air vents on the dash. It does not matter what I have the heater control on. I can even have it shut off it still happens. I have had the truck about a year. It had 70,000 on when I got it. This just started happening in the last threee months.
Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 12:01 AM

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Tiny
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Sounds like your heater controls are vacuum-operated and you're losing vacuum due to increased acceleration. That is somewhat normal but it's a valuable clue. It would seem the engine is down on power so you have to push harder on the gas pedal, hence the drop in fuel mileage. By pushing the gas pedal further, engine vacuum goes down. That is perfectly normal and expected, but when that vacuum gets low enough, the heating system has actuators that are spring-loaded to switch to the defrost setting. That's for safety in the event of a failure in the system. Your feet might freeze but your windshield will be clear. Since the vacuum didn't fully disappear, the actuators might not go to the full defrost position. I don't think there's anything wrong with the heater controls unless the vacuum check valve is stuck open. You need to look at why you need more power.

A dragging brake is a common cause of decreased fuel mileage. If you stop on a slight incline, shift to neutral, and release the brakes, the truck should creep down hill on its own.

An exhaust leak ahead of the first oxygen sensor can cause excessive fuel consumption. Between the pulses of exhaust gas flow, the momentum creates pulses of vacuum that draw in fresh outside air. The oxygen in that air is detected by the oxygen sensor as a lean condition. The Engine Computer responds by requesting additional fuel from the injectors. No matter how much extra fuel goes in, there will always be that unburned oxygen coming in from the leak. O2 sensors don't detect unburned fuel, just unburned oxygen.

GM also has a huge problem with injector flow rates that shows up at higher mileages. They do not flow-match them on the assembly line. Other manufacturers buy their injectors in flow-matched sets so they rarely have a problem. GM grabs a handful of injectors out of a bin and randomly throws them in an engine. As they wear a little, some will flow less resulting in a lean cylinder. The unburned oxygen is detected but the computer doesn't know it's due to just one cylinder so it commands more fuel from all of the injectors. That extra unburned fuel from three cylinders is wasted and produces no power. That will not show up as a sudden loss of fuel mileage. It will gradually get worse over time.

If you recently moved to California with their idiot politicians, use of their reformulated gasoline will cause a ten percent drop in fuel mileage. That has caught a lot of unsuspecting owners by surprise.

If you have a fuel pressure regulator on the engine, pull the vacuum hose off and check for raw fuel. If there's any wetness, the regulator is leaking unwanted fuel into the engine and must be replaced.

A mechanical problem inside the engine can cause a vibration that is picked up by the knock sensor. The Engine Computer will retard ignition timing in an attempt at stopping that knock from occurring. That will reduce power and increase fuel consumption. That is found by watching what the computer is doing to timing on a scanner that displays live data on a test drive.

You can also view short and long-term fuel trim data on the scanner. If the numbers are high positive, the computer is requesting more fuel in response to something. If the numbers are high negative, the computer is requesting less fuel but is not getting the proper response.
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 12:39 AM
Tiny
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This does not tell me why the air comes through air condioner vents
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 10:07 AM
Tiny
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Reread my first paragraph.

Switching to a different mode while accelerating or under load is common on any vehicle with vacuum-operated heater controls. To address that complaint on Chrysler vehicles, there is a check valve in that vacuum hose under the hood that can be replaced with a larger one with a vacuum storage canister built in. That same valve can be used on Fords, and I imagine on your truck too.

That improved check valve addresses a common complaint, but if your truck didn't need that improved check valve before, installing it now is not going to fix the real cause of the problem. It might make the mode problem go away but it's not going to address the underlying cause of low fuel mileage and / or power. Fix that issue and you won't need the improved check valve.

Given the multiple symptoms you listed, I don't think you have a heater control problem, and I stated that in my first paragraph. If I'm right, you can prove it by the system switching back to the selected mode when you let up on the gas pedal.
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 10:42 AM
Tiny
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The mode selection is done through a series of air doors that are operated by vacuum. When there is either a partial or total loss of vacuum, the system will default to either defrost or on some vehicles, heat. Acceleration can also have an effect on the doors for the same reason.

Look under the hood for a small black plastic hose coming through the firewall. Follow it to the vacuum source looking for any breaks, cracks or leaks. Also follow any other lines that branch off because they may go to a vacuum reservoir (storage tank) and a leak there will cause the same problem. Using a vacuum gauge to determine if you have full vacuum at any given point is the best way to find it. You can cut into the line anywhere and splice it back together with a piece of vacuum hose. Find the broken line, you found your problem.
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 11:01 AM

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