Cruise control

Tiny
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  • 1999 CHRYSLER LHS
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  • 2WD
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I have a 1999 Chrysler LHS and my cruise was working fine but now when I turn it on the indicator lights comes on but the cruise is not working. Is there something I can check without taking it to a dealer and costing a lot of money? How can I trouble shoot this? Thanks1
Wednesday, April 20th, 2011 AT 7:42 PM

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Tiny
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First try holding the brake pedal up with your foot while driving, then see if it will set. If it does, the brake light switch is defective or out-of-adjustment.

Narrowing down the cause becomes real fast at the dealership with their DRB3 scanner. A lot of independent shops have them too because they can be used on any brand of car sold in the U.S. After 1996. It will show the on or off state of every switch related to the cruise control, and it will display the "reason for last cutout".

Obviously the last reason will be that you turned off the ignition switch when you got to the repair shop. Had you left the engine running, the last reason would be "speed below minimum threshold", typically 35 mph. That's because the car is currently going 0 mph. The idea is to drive above 35 mph, press the set button, THEN see what reason pops up.

If the reason is still "ignition switch turned off", you would look at the wiring between the ignition switch and the Engine Computer. If it says "brakes applied", you would troubleshoot the brake light switch circuit. The scanner can also run the solenoids in the servo to see if they're working properly.
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Wednesday, April 20th, 2011 AT 8:08 PM
Tiny
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What does the brake light have to do with my cruise control?
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Thursday, April 21st, 2011 AT 5:22 AM
Tiny
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The cruise control kicks out when you tap the brake pedal. There is a separate switch contact in the switch specifically for the cruise control. Voltage for that circuit comes from the brake light circuit and fuse. That is for safety and is designed in. In the event the fuse were to blow for the brake lights, you would never get the cancel signal from the brake pedal.

When the brake pedal is released, the contact for the brake lights is off and the contact for the cruise control is on. When the switch is out of adjustment, it is possible for the cruise control switch to turn off but it's not far enough out of adjustment for the brake lights to turn on.

On older cars, the single brake light switch sent voltage to turn on the brake lights AND to kick out the cruise control. Sometimes those switches developed pitted or arced contacts and the switch would not work. That meant the brake lights would not turn on but it also meant the cruise control would not kick out.

By using a separate switch contact in your car, if it became pitted, the cruise control will never turn on. That is safer than the alternative that it wouldn't kick out and they find you in the next county still sailing along!

Aftermarket add-on cruise controls also tap into the brake light fuse for their power. That causes them to not work too if the fuse is blown. Again, that is for safety because the cruise would not turn off when you tapped the pedal.
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Thursday, April 21st, 2011 AT 6:04 AM

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