1996 Ford Ranger 4.0 V6 have codes P0306 and P0174 need some advice please

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Thank you for suggesting I take another look at the wires. It paid off.
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 4:37 AM
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Ratz I broke the new sparkplug. I used a wobble extension to get the old plug off but I had a lapse and left it on to put the new plug on. Tomorrow I will use a straight extension. The old plug looked really rusty. It was a dbl Platinum too.
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 6:02 AM
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I had another plug so I put it in tonight. I am a little frustrated, the engine is obviously missing on I believe cyl 6. On a 10 mile hiway drive with 2 stops, no mil comes on. At idle in my yard the P0300 comes on regular, it starts flashing the mil then if I turn off the engine and restart it the p0300 is set. At idle the miss is noticable, at above 2000rpm the miss seems to disappear(no shaking)

A little background on when this cyl 6 miss first began to happen. I had a coolant leak in cyl3 for a couple years. Every 3-4 months I would change the spark plug and be good for another 3-4 months of no missing/codes. Then it happened that changing the plug did not help anymore. So I put in stopleak into the radiator, the kind you leave in without removing the thermostat. The code for cyl 3 went away with a new plug but now I had the miss in cyl 6. I put another bottle of the same stopleak thinking the head gasket sprung a leak in cyl 6, this had no effect. This is when the cyl 6 miss began. And I can't drive the truck since June 2012.

I put some Seafoam in tonite and 8 gallons of gas. I have driven about 30 miles since. I was hoping the wire was the cause of the miss and I just needed to run the engine for a while to clean out the gas that was six mos old. I really need help with troubleshooting this since I paid to register it again(plus insurance) and need to smog it soon, it was on a nonop. I was so sure the cracked boot and arc scoring on the manifold was the cause of the issue, I should have waited.

Please help me figure this out. Thanks
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 8:48 AM
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Also I should say the code that came up right after I changed the plug right now(before the latest test drive) was P0174. Thanks
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 8:50 AM
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Now that the obvious wire problem was resolved, how can I test the cyl 6 injector in a way I haven't yet: clogged injector, I don't know a test for this.

What are the steps to resolve the P0174 and P0300 codes? Why am I getting P0300 instead of P0306?

I removed the spark plug wire from the coil pack for cyl 6 and there was no change in engine sound. It was arcing as I removed it so it must be finding a ground.
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 9:30 AM
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Could the partially clogged injector trickle at idle then work better over 2000 rpm? Is there more pressure at higher rpm's? The missing seems smoother over 2000rpm.
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 10:20 AM
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Whew! I just came from the DMV and they will give me back the $104 registration less another $18 planned non op fee and my insurance is able to cancel the Ranger policy at no cost to me.

Now I can breathe and try to be methodical in testing the Ranger's misfire problem.

I replaced all 6 spark plugs about 10000 miles ago.

Could the egr be sticking at low rpm and smooth out above 2000 rpm?

Any steering you can give me to the best path to take. Will be great.

The current codes are P0300 repeating and P0174 once

Thanks
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 4:49 PM
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Injector balance test? At 2500 rpm?
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Friday, December 14th, 2012 AT 2:57 PM
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After watching some Youtube videos, I can test the Cyl 6 injector by attching a fuel pressure gauge and powering the injector engine off. This will tell me if the injector is opening or not. I am afraid to use full battery voltage do you have a suggetion on how to power the injector without burning it out? Thanks
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Friday, December 14th, 2012 AT 3:53 PM
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I ordered a AA battery holder and 9 volt connector to try and power the injector at 5V, 9V, or 12 volts I should get it in a couple days. Thanks
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Friday, December 14th, 2012 AT 7:37 PM
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Sorry for the delay in responses our website has been having issues I havent been getting my email alerts when someone posts a reply to a question I have answered like its supposed too. They just fixed that today so iam playing catch up lol on all my questions. As far as the injectors go for operation there is one wire to them that has a constant 12 volts to it. The other wire is a ground pulse that the computer controls the amount of fuel it deliverys. The proper way to do a injector balance test is to key up the fuel pressure while watching the fuel pressure with a fuel pressure gauge. Once the pressure is at say 40 psi for instance then there is a special tool that hooks to the injector that supplies power and the ground pulse. You can set it pulse the injector for a certain amount of time. You set it to pulse for 100 milliseconds and watch what the fuel pressure drops too. Then do the next one and compare the pressure drop of each injector being pulsed. They should be all close to each other. If the engine doesnt run any different when removing the number 6 spark plug wire and you see a nice blue spark?Heres what I would a compression check on the number 6 cyl let me know what it is?
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Saturday, December 15th, 2012 AT 5:39 AM
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Compression on cyl 6 was 180 psi back in June. I removed the coil pack side of the wire for 6. Strong blue spark and then no change in idle when held aside. For a while I thought the problem was an intake manifold gasket leaking air to the cyl 6. How likely is this? Let's wait till I get the AA battery setup so I can open the injector with a fuel pressure gauge attached. I have looked for a Power Probe device to activate the injector but they are $40+. Can I just use a battery? What's your opinion about using full 12v battery power to test the injector? I am afraid of burning it out. Thanks
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Saturday, December 15th, 2012 AT 3:49 PM
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You can use 12 volts they run on 12 volts also have you checked for a injector pulse to the injector while cranking the engine and it running?Also just because you had 180 in june doesnt mean you have that now. If you have good spark then its going to be fuel or compression.I have the power probe 3 it even has a volt meter on it.
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Saturday, December 15th, 2012 AT 5:02 PM
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Hi, I just got an extra injector connector from the junkyard I will use to check the injector. I have to solder some wires to it and clips. I will rent the fuel pressure gauge at Autozone today. Thanks
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Saturday, December 15th, 2012 AT 8:00 PM
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Hey what's the ohms reading on the injector across the terminals?
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Saturday, December 15th, 2012 AT 9:47 PM
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When I checked the ohms back in June it was within specs. I will check it again. Thanks
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Sunday, December 16th, 2012 AT 3:27 PM
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Also do you have a injector pulse going to the number 6 injector?
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Sunday, December 16th, 2012 AT 4:29 PM
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Ohms are 16.1 ohms on Cyls 2 ad 6. Compression is 133psi on cyl 6 and 150 psi on cyl 4 cold cranking engine wot. Fuel pressure running is 31 psi, off 32 psi after 2 minutes 32 psi. From max of 36 psi fuel pressure each pulse of injectors 2 and 6 drops 3-4 psi fuel pressure per pulse (touching neg of battery momentarily) until exhausted. 2 and 6 are the same. Cyl 6 injector makes a good loud click. Please let me know your ideas. When running it is still rough missing at idle and smooths out above 2000rpm. I did not let it run much today. It was getting cool and dark so I stopped for today. Thanks
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Monday, December 17th, 2012 AT 12:27 AM
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I just noticed you asked about inj pulse at inj 6. In june I used a noid light and it worked correctly. Flashed on and off.

Would a bad intake manifold gasket cause this problem? No firing on cyl 6? I wish I had a smoke machine, a mechanic here said it would cost $100 cash upfront to test with a smoke machine. That was why I was going to make one from a fog machine and air pump. Thanks
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Monday, December 17th, 2012 AT 12:31 AM
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So when you remove the number 6 spark plug wire there is no change in the way the engine runs?Your compression really dropped from 180psi to 133psi.I want to know if you have injector pulse to the number 6 injector now?
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Monday, December 17th, 2012 AT 12:53 AM

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