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Tiny
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Something to remember here is the shift lock mechanism is currently removed. Would this affect removing the ignition cylinder?
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Sunday, June 7th, 2020 AT 10:01 PM
Tiny
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Hello again.

No, that shouldn't make a difference. Giving you a hard time for removal?

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Sunday, June 7th, 2020 AT 10:13 PM
Tiny
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Yes.

I will try again.
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Sunday, June 7th, 2020 AT 10:22 PM
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Hello again.

Okay. As I stated before just use something small and sharp to depress the button while cycling the cylinder with the key inserted. Pull the cylinder outward while doing so. Hope this helps and we will get through this. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Sunday, June 7th, 2020 AT 10:47 PM
Tiny
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Okay, I'm still trying to get the key cylinder out. Unfortunately I'm beginning to suspect that the cylinder detent pin may have been damaged when the old cylinder was drilled out. The reason I say that is the the detent pin is in the depressed position, and there is no "spring" to it. You can actually see this in one the photos I sent. I will keep trying to remove it but I may have to drill this one out too.

A couple more questions - is there an end game after the cylinder is out as far as being able to shift out of park? Does the Teflon have something to do with it. Would I be able to just leave the key cylinder out and start the truck with the ignition module?

Secondly, would it make more sense to get a steering column from the salvage yard and swap them out? I don't know what's involved in that. I just need to be able to get it out of park, I can live without the ignition switch (unless there's some kind of interlock involved).
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Thursday, June 11th, 2020 AT 9:07 PM
Tiny
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Tried again to get the key out. I tried the key in every possible position. It will not budge. Will probably have to drill this out too, if that is the only option at this. I will also reinstall the shift lock and solenoid. This may take a while to do. Will send photos afterwards.
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Friday, June 12th, 2020 AT 11:22 PM
Tiny
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"Meant to say "Tried again to get the key cylinder out."
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Friday, June 12th, 2020 AT 11:22 PM
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Hello again.

Sorry to hear you are having such problems. If the pin is depressed Something must be binding up in the column not allowing the plastic slide or the cylinder to move. Yes, the end game is to get the cylinder out to access and see what is binding everything up. Also you mentioned picking up a used column assembly. You can do that as well if you can get a good deal on one.I would done that as a last resort if the cylinder removal can't be removed in a timely manner.I know you're trying to get back on the road. Okay, send photos of any progress to view. Hope this helps and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Saturday, June 13th, 2020 AT 11:22 AM
Tiny
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Okay. I'm going to drill this one out. Will be back with photos once the cover is off the top of the column.
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Saturday, June 13th, 2020 AT 2:55 PM
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Sounds good.
I'll be looking for the pictures once you send. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Saturday, June 13th, 2020 AT 3:20 PM
Tiny
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Drilling operation. Attempted to do this same way as before, see photos. Last time, once the tumbler pins were gone, the cylinder rotated and came out fairly easily. I've gotten to the same point here, but the cylinder still won't come out. Even used pliers to turn and pull; doesn't matter if detent button is pushed or not. YT instructions said not to drill all the way through the cylinder to avoid damaging the socket. I think it's past that point, honestly.
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Saturday, June 13th, 2020 AT 9:39 PM
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Hello again.

Sounds like you're having a heck of a time. When I've done it before I drill a lot deeper.I used a cobalt titanium bit so it ate through it in a few minutes. Once it hit the sweet part the remaining part of the cylinder just fell apart in pieces. After that I used compressed air from my shop air to blow the shavings and pieces out. Also, Have you tried using a punch and hammer to knock the depress pin in? It won't be damaging it due to you buying a new assembly. Once done the cylinder piece I've circled in red should come out. The greenish area is part of the column it fits into. Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros
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Sunday, June 14th, 2020 AT 12:26 PM
Tiny
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I will keep going and drill farther. Yes this has been difficult. Trying to keep a positive outlook. If all else fails I will punch out the detent pin. Thanks for sticking with me.
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Sunday, June 14th, 2020 AT 3:09 PM
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We try to cheer everybody on!

I made this pic a good while back for somebody else in a different rig.

Maybe it will aid you somehow.

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Sunday, June 14th, 2020 AT 3:44 PM
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Hello again.

Yes! We are here for you. Keep us updated as to how the drilling and removal attempt is going. Hope to hear back soon with progress.

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Sunday, June 14th, 2020 AT 7:22 PM
Tiny
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Guys, I just wanted to check back in with you. I had to take a trip and then was a bit under the weather for awhile and haven't been able to spend a lot of time on the truck. But I have some new photos for you.

I have not yet finished drilling out the lock or replacing the shift interlock. But I did manage to get the top cover removed from the steering column. I'm not sure whether you meant for the steering column to be dropped while doing this. There are earlier photos of the dropped steering column. So here are some photos of the top of the un-dropped steering column.

Also, there is a photo of the shift indicator cable and it appears the plastic mount popped out when I dropped the column earlier. I do not know what part of the column this white plastic piece mounts to.

Thanks again for your assistance in this.

Chris
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Thursday, July 2nd, 2020 AT 1:51 PM
Tiny
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Finally got the lock cylinder out. Had to drill it to the stem. Luckily no damage to the socket area. Once drill bit reached the stem the inner cylinder came right out. Once the inner cylinder came out, I was able to push the retaining pin up and out, then the cylinder housing came right out as well. Grabbed the remaining part of stem with needle nose pliers, twisted and pulled for 20 minutes but couldn't get it out. May have just not aligned the stem with the "keyhole." See annotated photos for comments. Will try again after 4th of July weekend. Have a great 4th and will check in again when I can. It's fishing season in Alaska and I have salmon to catch (and eat!).
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Thursday, July 2nd, 2020 AT 8:05 PM
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Hello again.

Glad to hear you've made progress. Still a few steps to go. I've reattached a few pictures from both you and I. In the first picture you sent you still have a small piece of the switch in there. That green plastic clip can be removed. Once removed there is a small metal plate that is removable after the green clip is removed. After those are removed you get the remainder of the tip of the switch out. That tip from your old switch is what makes contact with the Teflon bar you spoke of. After removing all the things you should clean all the debris and metal shavings to make things move freely. That Teflon bar should move freely and that piece is what transfers mechanical action from the key switch to the actuator. I've circled in red and attached the pictures below. Have a great 4th weekend and get back to me when you can. Catch a beauty for me as I've been an angler my whole life fishing in the California High Sierra's. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Friday, July 3rd, 2020 AT 11:28 PM
Tiny
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One last quick question; what is this reference mark for?
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Saturday, July 4th, 2020 AT 12:32 AM
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Hello again.

That should be where the actuator tab or pin plugs into. I've reattached a photo of yours and circled the tab or pin and circled in red. Keep me updated as to your progress. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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