My engine will not crank over because the starter is not working?

Tiny
ISSAC88
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  • 2014 CHEVROLET IMPALA
  • 3.6L
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  • 133,000 MILES
My car suddenly stopped said engine power is reduced. Wouldn't start after that battery died after a few hours got it recharged but would start. A neighbor told me you blew your engine its locked. A week later I decided to start the vehicle and it came on and was going to drive around the block but it shut off and wont start after and battery drained again. Before my car went out it said to replace a fuel module. A friend of mine said if it started then your engine is not locked that it could be the starter or alternator would you know what would be the issue?
Thursday, February 4th, 2021 AT 4:32 PM

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Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello, I'm Danny.

It sounds like you might have be having a few different possible issues. First, Is the check engine light on? If it is this means there is a fault code or codes stored in your cars computer and we need to know what they are. here is a tutorial showing how to retrieve fault codes from your vehicle:

This sounds like the starter is having problems or the battery needs to be load tested these guides can help us fix it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run down these guides and report back.

Both your battery and alternator can be tested for free at your local auto parts stores after removal.

You will need to remove the serpentine belt to remove the alternator. Here is a tutorial showing how to remove and replace a serpentine belt:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-serpentine-belt

I've attached picture steps below showing how to remove and replace the serpentine belt, battery, and alternator on your car. Get back to us after all this testing and we'll go from there. Hope this all helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.
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Friday, February 5th, 2021 AT 2:10 AM
Tiny
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Okay, I will do that. I forgot to tell you that my oil dipstick won't go back in after my car gave out in December my oil filter was loose too
i gave my battery a jump but wont start just a clicking noise.
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Friday, February 5th, 2021 AT 12:08 PM
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DANNY L
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Hello again.

Be sure the oil filter is tight and not leaking to not cause engine damage when starting and running. It's also possible that you might be having an issue with the starter motor solenoid by just hearing a clicking sound. Be sure the battery is fully charged and tested as in my last post. Here are a few more tutorials for you to view regarding a starter motor and the starter motor solenoid:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-starter-and-solenoid-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-starter-motor

I've attached picture steps below on how to remove and replace your starter motor on your vehicle. Just like I stated in my last post you local auto parts stores will test a starter motor for free. Get back to us after performing these tests to see what you have found out regarding you battery, alternator, starter, and fuel pressure. Hope this helps and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Friday, February 5th, 2021 AT 8:53 PM
Tiny
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Hello, seems like my engine is cracked wide open.
Here is a picture of it right by where the oil dipstick connects.
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Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 2:44 PM
Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello again.

That is not good. Can you you take a picture from higher above to see where this is located? Just use you cell phone again to upload a picture here. Hope this helps and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Sunday, February 14th, 2021 AT 10:10 PM
Tiny
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The oil filter to the left and the starter to the right was going to take the positive wire off from the starter when I saw the crack.
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Monday, February 15th, 2021 AT 6:02 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

That looks like the engine block. It isn't something that can be repaired if I'm correct. The engine will need replaced. Let's see if Danny agrees.

If he does, here are the directions for replacing the engine. The attached pics correlate with the directions. The directions are extensive.

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2014 Chevrolet Impala V6-3.6L
Engine Replacement
Vehicle Engine, Cooling and Exhaust Engine Service and Repair Removal and Replacement Engine Replacement
ENGINE REPLACEMENT
Engine Replacement

Removal Procedure

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable. Refer to Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection See: Negative > Removal and Replacement > Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection.

2. Support the vehicle. Refer to Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle See: Vehicle Lifting > Procedures > Lifting and Jacking the Vehicle.

Pic 1

3. Remove the bolt (1) from the coupler and disconnect the steering shaft coupling from the steering gear. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement See: Steering Column > Removal and Replacement > Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement.

Pic 2

4. Remove the intake manifold cover (3). Refer to Intake Manifold Cover Replacement See: Intake Manifold > Removal and Replacement > Intake Manifold Cover Replacement.

Pic 3

5. Remove the air cleaner assembly (1). Refer to Air Cleaner Assembly Replacement See: Air Cleaner Housing > Removal and Replacement > Air Cleaner Assembly Replacement.

6. Recover the refrigerant. Refer to Refrigerant Recovery and Recharging See: Heating and Air Conditioning > Procedures > Refrigerant Recovery and Recharging.

7. Drain the cooling system. Refer to Cooling System Draining and Filling (Static) See: Cooling System > Procedures > Cooling System Draining and Filling (Static)Cooling System Draining and Filling (GE 47716) See: Cooling System > Procedures > Cooling System Draining and Filling (GE 47716).

8. Remove the front compartment fuse block cover.

Pic 4

9. Remove the front compartment fuse block (2).

Pic 5

10. Remove the battery tray (2). Refer to Battery Tray Replacement See: Battery Tray > Removal and Replacement > Battery Tray Replacement.

Pic 6

11. Disconnect the transmission shift cable (3).

Pic 7

12. Disconnect the radiator outlet hose (2) from the engine. Refer to Radiator Outlet Hose Replacement (LFX) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Outlet Hose ReplacementRadiator Outlet Hose Replacement (LKW) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Outlet Hose Replacement.

13. Disconnect the radiator inlet hose from the engine. Refer to Radiator Inlet Hose Replacement (LFX) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Inlet Hose ReplacementRadiator Inlet Hose Replacement (LKW) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Inlet Hose Replacement.

Pic 8

14. Release the clip from the quick disconnect (1) and remove the heater inlet hose (2) from the heater core tube.

Pic 9

15. Release the clip from the quick disconnect (1) and remove the heater outlet hose (2) from the heater core tube.

16. Remove the A/C connectors from the service ports.

17. Remove both front wheels. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation See: Wheels and Tires > Removal and Replacement > Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation.

18. Remove right side front wheelhouse liner. Refer to Front Wheelhouse Liner Replacement.

19. Remove the exhaust front pipe. Refer to Front Pipe Replacement (LFX) See: Exhaust Pipe > Removal and Replacement > Front Pipe ReplacementFront Pipe Replacement (LKW) See: Exhaust Pipe > Removal and Replacement > Front Pipe Replacement.

Pic 10

20. Disconnect the fuel feed line (1). Refer to Metal Collar Quick Connect Fitting Service See: Fuel Line Coupler > Removal and Replacement > Metal Collar Quick Connect Fitting Service.

21. Disconnect the fuel feed line from the engine bracket retainer.

Pic 11

22. Disconnect the evaporative emission line (1). Refer to Plastic Collar Quick Connect Fitting Service See: Coolant Line/Hose > Procedures > Plastic Collar Quick Connect Fitting Service.

Pic 12

23. Remove the starter. Refer to Starter Replacement (LFX) See: Starter Motor > Removal and Replacement > Starter Replacement Starter Replacement (LKW) See: Starter Motor > Removal and Replacement > Starter Replacement.

24. Mark the torque converter to flexplate relationship.

Note: Rotate engine clockwise using the crankshaft balancer bolt to gain access to each bolt.

25. Remove the torque converter bolts.

26. Remove the wheel drive shafts from the hub/bearing assemblies. Refer to Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Left Side See: Axle Shaft Assembly > Removal and Replacement > Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Left Side and Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Right Side See: Axle Shaft Assembly > Removal and Replacement > Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Right Side.

27. Remove the front fascia. Refer to Front Bumper Fascia Replacement.

28. Disconnect and reposition harnesses as required.

29. Disconnect the power steering cooler lines from the cooler.

30. Disconnect the steering pump hydraulic lines.

31. Lower the vehicle and powertrain onto a suitable support table. Using wood blocks support the oil pan and front frame on the table.

32. Disconnect the coolant hoses from the radiator surge tank.

33. Disconnect the air conditioning hoses from the air compressor.

Note: Mechanicics wire can be used.

34. Support the radiator assembly to the core support.

Pic 13

35. Remove the right side engine mount to engine bolts (2). Refer to Engine Mount Replacement - Right Side See: Engine Mount > Removal and Replacement > Engine Mount Replacement - Right Side.

36. Remove the left side transmission mount to transmission bolts. Refer to Transmission Mount Replacement - Left Side See: Transmission Mount, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Transmission Mount Replacement - Left Side.

37. Remove the front and rear frame to the body bolts. Refer to Drivetrain and Front Suspension Frame Replacement.

38. Raise the vehicle off the powertrain.

39. Remove the front and rear engine mount through bolts. Refer to Transmission Front Mount Replacement See: Transmission Mount, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Transmission Front Mount Replacement and Transmission Rear Mount Replacement See: Transmission Mount, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Transmission Rear Mount Replacement.

40. Lift the powertrain assembly off the frame and place on the floor.

41. Separate the engine from the transmission.

42. Disconnect electrical connectors as necessary.

Installation Procedure

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1. Install the upper transmission to engine bolt (1, 2) and tighten to 75 Nm (55 lb ft).

2. Place the powertrain assembly on the frame.

3. Place the powertrain and frame assembly on the engine support table.

4. Align the powertrain assembly to the vehicle.

5. Lower the vehicle onto the powertrain assembly.

6. Install the front and rear frame bolts. Refer to Drivetrain and Front Suspension Frame Replacement.

7. Install the left side transmission mount to transmission bolts. Refer to Transmission Mount Replacement - Left Side See: Transmission Mount, A/T > Removal and Replacement > Transmission Mount Replacement - Left Side.

Pic 15

8. Install the right side engine mount to engine bolts (2). Refer to Engine Mount Replacement - Right Side See: Engine Mount > Removal and Replacement > Engine Mount Replacement - Right Side.

9. Release the radiator from the core support.

10. Connect the air conditioning hoses to the air compressor and tighten the fasteners to 22 Nm (16 lb ft).

11. Connect the coolant hoses to the radiator surge tank.

12. Retain the harness in it original position.

13. Remove the engine support table.

14. Connect the steering pump hydraulic lines.

15. Install the front fascia. Refer to Front Bumper Fascia Replacement.

Pic 16

16. Align the torque converter and flexplate marks and install the torque convertor-to-flexplate bolts and tighten to 62 Nm (46 lb ft).

17. Install the exhaust front pipe. Refer to Front Pipe Replacement (LFX) See: Exhaust Pipe > Removal and Replacement > Front Pipe Replacement Front Pipe Replacement (LKW) See: Exhaust Pipe > Removal and Replacement > Front Pipe Replacement.

18. Install the wheel drive shafts from the hub/bearing assemblies. Refer to Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Left Side See: Axle Shaft Assembly > Removal and Replacement > Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Left Side and Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Right Side See: Axle Shaft Assembly > Removal and Replacement > Front Wheel Drive Shaft Replacement - Right Side.

Pic 17

19. Connect the steering shaft coupling to the steering gear and install the bolt (1). Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement See: Steering Column > Removal and Replacement > Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement.

Pic 18

20. Install the right side front wheelhouse liner (4). Refer to Front Wheelhouse Liner Replacement.

21. Install the front wheels. Refer to Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation See: Wheels and Tires > Removal and Replacement > Tire and Wheel Removal and Installation.

Pic 19

22. Install the radiator outlet hose (2). Refer to Radiator Outlet Hose Replacement (LFX) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Outlet Hose Replacement Radiator Outlet Hose Replacement (LKW) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Outlet Hose Replacement.

23. Install the radiator inlet hose. Refer to Radiator Inlet Hose Replacement (LFX) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Inlet Hose Replacement Radiator Inlet Hose Replacement (LKW) See: Radiator Hose > Removal and Replacement > Radiator Inlet Hose Replacement.

Pic 20

24. Install the heater inlet hose (2) to the heater core tube and clip the quick disconnect (1).

Pic 21

25. Install the heater outlet hose (2) to the heater core tube and clip the quick disconnect (1).

Pic 22

26. Install the fuel EVAP line (1).

27. Connect the fuel feel line to the engine bracket retainer.

Pic 23

28. Connect the fuel feed line (1). Refer to Fuel Feed Pipe Replacement See: Fuel Supply Line > Removal and Replacement > Fuel Feed Pipe Replacement.

Pic 24

29. Connect the transmission shiftier cable (3).

Pic 25

30. Install the front compartment fuse block (2).

31. Install the front compartment fuse block cover.

Pic 26

32. Install the battery tray (2). Refer to Battery Tray Replacement See: Battery Tray > Removal and Replacement > Battery Tray Replacement.

33. Connect the negative battery cable. Refer to Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection See: Negative > Removal and Replacement > Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection.

34. Fill the vehicle with coolant. Refer to Cooling System Draining and Filling (Static) See: Cooling System > Procedures > Cooling System Draining and Filling (Static)Cooling System Draining and Filling (GE 47716) See: Cooling System > Procedures > Cooling System Draining and Filling (GE 47716).

35. Recharge the air conditioning system. Refer to Refrigerant Recovery and Recharging See: Heating and Air Conditioning > Procedures > Refrigerant Recovery and Recharging.

Pic 27

36. Install the air cleaner assembly (1). Refer to Air Cleaner Assembly Replacement See: Air Cleaner Housing > Removal and Replacement > Air Cleaner Assembly Replacement.

37. Fill the engine oil. Refer to Engine Oil and Oil Filter Replacement See: Engine Oil > Removal and Replacement > Engine Oil and Oil Filter Replacement.

Pic 28

38. Install the intake manifold cover (3). Refer to Intake Manifold Cover Replacement See: Intake Manifold > Removal and Replacement > Intake Manifold Cover Replacement.

Pic 29

39. Install the bolt (1) from the coupler and connect the steering shaft coupling to the steering gear. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement See: Steering Column > Removal and Replacement > Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement.

40. Connect the negative battery cable. Refer to Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection See: Negative > Removal and Replacement > Battery Negative Cable Disconnection and Connection.

41. Perform the throttle learn procedure. Refer to Q38 Throttle Body: Throttle/Idle Learn See: Throttle Body > Programming and Relearning > Throttle Body Throttle/Idle Learn.

42. Perform the crankshaft position variation learn procedure. Refer to Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn See: Crankshaft Position Sensor > Programming and Relearning > Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn.

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I hope this helps. Let us know if you have other questions.

Take care and God Bless,

Joe
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Monday, February 15th, 2021 AT 5:33 PM
Tiny
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Wow, it's a lot to take out and put back in think im able to do that.
I did find an engine already.
Do you know how long it will take to remove and replace like hours?
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Monday, February 15th, 2021 AT 5:42 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Flat rate is 14 hours. If you aren't experienced, it will likely take longer.

Let us know if we can help.

Take care,
Joe
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Monday, February 15th, 2021 AT 6:50 PM
Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello again.

Yes, it looks like the engine block is cracked and those types of breakages cannot be repaired. Joe attached a great set of steps for replacement above. I've attached below what the repair guide give for time requirements. Hope this helps and let us know if you have any further questions on this issue. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Monday, February 15th, 2021 AT 6:56 PM

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