What is causing car to stall when going into drive or reverse, or while in park after pumping accelerator?

Tiny
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  • 2003 MITSUBISHI OUTLANDER
  • 2.4L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 130,000 MILES
When the car is warmed up and running in park, it idles fine, but as soon as you quickly pump (or tap) the accelerator, and quickly release, it stalls out. But if you press down on the accelerator normally, it doesn't stall (mostly).

While the car is idling/stopped in drive or reverse it also stalls, but not when it is in neutral.

I read a suggestion on here similar to my issue, and the suggestion stated that it was most likely the torque converter, but I have a couple questions, if this is most likely the case:

1. Why would the torque converter cause the engine to stall while in park after pumping the accelerator? Does it affect the engine even when in park?

2. I was told that the transmission fluid and filter haven't been changed in many years. Could it be possible that it's not the torque converter, but the filter (and fluid) needs changing?


Note: I cleaned the throttle body, replaced the air filter, and installed new spark plugs, and wires. I suspect the problem is either the fuel pump/filter, torque converter, or dirty fuel injectors.

I'm going to look at the air intake hose for cracks. I never bothered to inspect it. Maybe that's the problem.

Thanks in advance for any comments.
Monday, March 20th, 2023 AT 3:39 AM

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Tiny
KEN L
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This sounds more like a fuel pressure and delivery issue. The torque converter only comes into play when the transmission is shifted into drive or reverse. This guide can show you how to check the pressure and the gauge kit you can rent from the local auto parts store for cheap or free in some cases. If you can unload a short video of the problem, I can tell you what's going on for sure.

SERVICE SPECIFICATIONS

ITEM .................... STANDARD VALUE
Fuel pressure kPa (psi)
Vacuum hose disconnected .................... 330 - 350 (47 - 50) at curb idle
Vacuum hose connected .................... Approximately 270 (38) at curb idle

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

This guide may help as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/stall-at-idle

Please go over these guides and report back.
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Monday, March 20th, 2023 AT 1:58 PM
Tiny
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Hello Ken, I had ended up purchasing an OBD II scanner (had a service engine light which I forgot to mention) which indicated it was the mass airflow sensor. I noticed the reading was zero, even when throttling. I inspected its wires/voltages, and cleaned it, and it still didn't work. I purchased a new one on ebay, and everything works perfectly now.

Thank you so much for your time, and your professional insight.
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Wednesday, April 12th, 2023 AT 5:28 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for letting us know, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.
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Thursday, April 13th, 2023 AT 11:20 AM

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