Vibration while driving around forty KM/h

Tiny
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  • 2014 HONDA CRV
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  • 50,000 MILES
While accelerating slowly starts to vibrate between around thirty km to fifty km/h. Below and above this range no vibration. If accelerated hard, no vibration. Also, when vibration does come on, taking foot off accelerator makes it go away. So it vibrates only while being accelerated relatively slowly and while gas pedal is pressed constantly. Wheels balanced. New tires. No warning lights. Runs well otherwise. My hunch: this is something to do with engine vibration, as it goes away if gas pedal is not pressed. No CV joint issues, no loose exhaust system and engine belt seems to be okay.
Thursday, December 21st, 2017 AT 9:46 AM

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Tiny
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The solution depends on where you feel the vibration. If it makes the steering wheel oscillate back and forth, that is due to a worn inner CV joint housing. The mileage you listed is too low to suspect that.

If the entire car body shudders, when this happens, hold the accelerator pedal and road speed perfectly steady, then lightly tap the brake pedal with your left foot. If the shudder stops for a couple of seconds, then resumes, the transmission has the wrong fluid in it. The torque converter's lock-up clutch is starting to engage for better fuel mileage, but instead of slowly grabbing smoothly, it is trying to lock solidly, then gets torn loose from engine torque and load, then tries to grab again. The correct transmission fluid has special additives that allow the clutch to slip gradually less and less until full lock is reached.

The additional clue is the lock-up clutch only engages when the engine is warmed up, you are above a minimum speed, and only in the highest gears. You will not feel the shudder if any of those conditions are not met.
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Thursday, December 21st, 2017 AT 4:46 PM
Tiny
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Caradiodoc. Thank you sir.
I will try this move of tapping brake pedal to see if shudder goes away. And will update.
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Thursday, December 21st, 2017 AT 9:00 PM
Tiny
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I have exactly same issue in my CRV 2012. Is that problem solved after changing transmission fluid?
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Monday, June 18th, 2018 AT 5:12 AM
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This problem is quite common with CRV and the main culprit is the propeller shafts couplings. They get stiff thus causing vibration with minor acceleration around speed range indicated above.
This vehicle is AWD and the propeller shafts maybe removed for testing.
The transmission fluid is not the cause of this but the rear differential fluids can cause this though and at the mileage indicated, the fluids are due for replacement.
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Monday, June 18th, 2018 AT 6:32 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the reply. Current reading is 140,000 km. Actually I am the second owner and I am not sure previous owner replaced oil or any parts earlier or not. When the car speed reach fifty km that time it is showing with slow acceleration. If it is harder acceleration there is no issue.
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Monday, June 18th, 2018 AT 9:38 PM
Tiny
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At this mileage it is advisable to have the rear differential fluids replaced. The fluids used are specific to this vehicle and not any type of differential fluid can be used. Wrong used of fluids can cause the symptoms described.
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Tuesday, June 19th, 2018 AT 7:26 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for your reply. I will replace oil and update here.
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Tuesday, June 19th, 2018 AT 9:56 PM
Tiny
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You are welcome.
You should consider having the propeller shaft joints checked as well, ensure they twist smoothly and are not too stiff.
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Wednesday, June 20th, 2018 AT 8:14 AM
Tiny
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I contacted Honda and they said it might be transmission oil and they flushed oil with high pressure and replaced the oil and updated the program.
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Tuesday, June 26th, 2018 AT 1:07 AM
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Did this seem to fix the problem?
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Thursday, June 28th, 2018 AT 12:50 PM
Tiny
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Yes, now it is fine. They flush transmission oil two times with high pressure. Thanks for your advice.
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Saturday, June 30th, 2018 AT 9:34 PM
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Good to hear, please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.

Cheers, Ken
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Monday, July 2nd, 2018 AT 11:45 AM
Tiny
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I bought 2006 CR-V SE with 220,000 KM I side of Honda Dealer.
* 1st - got this vibration between 70km/h and 90km/h. They replaced the front axel and the issue gone.
* 2sd - after they replace the front axel, the car start shaking between 30 and 40 km/h while throttle and is worse up hill.
I'm going to return to Honda and talk with then, because is lots of option to figured it out and I don't want still spending money and money.
Heading all the information, looks like we don't have a single shot.
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Friday, November 1st, 2019 AT 10:06 PM
Tiny
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Can I ask if they did both axles? Also lower ball joint can cause this as well as a tire starting to separate.

This guide can help:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/popping-noise

Please run down this guide and report back. Can you please shoot a quick video with your phone so we can see what's going on? that would be great. You can upload it here with your response.
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Saturday, November 2nd, 2019 AT 12:19 PM
Tiny
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Also be aware that almost all half shafts replaced out-of-warranty are rebuilt units. Normally they're perfectly fine, but sometimes the people doing the inspections on the returned "cores" overlook a very elusive cause of shaking in the steering wheel under moderate acceleration, as you described. That is caused by worn spots inside the inner CV joint housing. As the three large rollers run in and out of those worn areas, they bind and refuse to move to allow the joint to swivel and change length as it goes around. By binding when under load, instead of changing length, the shaft pushes on the spindle, which is attached to the steering linkage. It's actually tugging and pushing on the steering linkage, so you feel it in the steering wheel.

One clue which can take some experience to observe, is with a binding CV joint, the steering wheel shimmy usually occurs three times per wheel revolution, while a broken tire belt causes one shimmy per wheel revolution. Also, you can see the steering wheel wobble from a broken tire belt at real low speeds, such as when driving through a parking lot. You won't feel anything from a worn inner CV joint unless the engine is under load, and that usually gets much worse when turning sharply at the same time, as in when accelerating out of a parking lot, onto the road.

The best clue is when the shaking starts right after a rebuilt half shaft is installed. The supplier won't argue about replacing the shaft with a different one.
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Saturday, November 2nd, 2019 AT 2:22 PM

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