Turn signals, horn, wipers do not work?

Tiny
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All of a sudden, my horn quit (still sounds when I lock van), my turn signals quit, my washer doesn't work, no rear wiper and front wiper stuck on low speed, also will not shut off when engine running. Replaced mf switch on steering column, still the same.
thanks
Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 AT 12:59 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

The is a printed circuit board integral to the totally integrated power module (TIPM). The items you mentioned not working or not working correctly all go through the steering column module and the TIPM.

Here is what I suggest. Because we have different modules involved, what should be done is this. Have the can-bus scanned for diagnostic trouble codes.

CAN stands for controller area network. Basically, all the different modules communicate with each other via a few wires. A traditional scan tool can't retrieve codes from most of the different modules, so you need one that can read all modules.

This type of scan will retrieve codes regardless of the module storing them. If you do have a check engine light staying on, you could try stopping at a parts store to see what is stored, but it may not be enough.

Here is a link that explains how to do what I'm referring to:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/can-scan-controller-area-network-easy

I suggest this because it will become a guessing game if we don't. For example, is there a wiring problem, has the PCB failed or shorted, is the TIPM at fault, did the steering column control module fail, and so on. Hopefully, this will point us in the right direction.

Let me know your thoughts and if you could have that done.

Take care,

Joe
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Tuesday, November 29th, 2022 AT 7:58 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for your response.
I changed the turn signal switch on the steering column, no change.
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Wednesday, November 30th, 2022 AT 6:21 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

I feel it is one of the modules that is having issues. Are you able to have the can-scan I mentioned above?

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, November 30th, 2022 AT 5:41 PM

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