Transmission valve body removal issue

Tiny
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  • 150,000 MILES
I have followed everything I can find on removing the valve body so I can replace the shift solenoid. I’ve got it dropped but won’t come all the way out. Seems like something is stopping it but can’t find anything. Cable is already disconnected and all screws out. Won’t drop any further than shown in image.
Wednesday, July 15th, 2020 AT 7:08 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

First, here are the directions right from Alldata for removal. I want you to have them because towards the end of the directions, it explains how the accumulator springs can come out. Also, it will give you a chance to see if anything was missed. Note that there is a specific position that the shift lever needs shifted one point past low. That may be what is holding it in place.

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2002 Chrysler 300M V6-3.5L VIN G
Removal
Vehicle Transmission and Drivetrain Automatic Transmission/Transaxle Valve Body Service and Repair Procedures 42LE Automatic Transaxle Valve Body Removal
REMOVAL
42LE - Automatic Transmission
VALVE BODY - REMOVAL

NOTE: If valve body is being reconditioned or replaced, it is necessary to perform the Quick Learn Procedure.

1. Disconnect the TRS wiring connector. The solenoid wiring connector can remain attached to the case.
2. Disconnect the shift cable from the shift lever (at the transaxle).
3. Move the shift lever clockwise as far as it will go. This should be one position past the L position. Then remove the shift lever.

Pic 1

4. Remove transaxle pan bolts (Fig. 408).

Pic 2

5. Remove transaxle oil pan (Fig. 409). When reinstalling oil pan be sure that pan flange is clean and oil free. Apply a 1/8 inch bead of Mopar Silicone Sealer onto oil pan flange before installing.

Pic 3

6. Remove oil filter from valve body (Fig. 410). It is held in place by two clips.

CAUTION: The 42LE transaxle oil filter is not interchangeable with the 41TE transaxle filter. Installation of a 41TE oil filter in a 42LE may cause transaxle damage.

Pic 4

7. Remove valve body bolts-to-case (Fig. 411).

Pic 5

pic 6

8. Carefully remove valve body assembly from transaxle (Fig. 412). (Fig. 415)

pic 7

pic 8

CAUTION: The overdrive and underdrive accumulators and springs may fall out when removing the valve body (Fig. 413) (Fig. 414) (Fig. 415).

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Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Joe
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Wednesday, July 15th, 2020 AT 2:13 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for the information as it does help and I have marked the overdrive and under-drive accumulators. So I know where they go. My issue is I cannot find the shift lever/cable.
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Wednesday, July 15th, 2020 AT 4:48 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I thought that was off. That is what is holding the valve body in. That needs removed or the shift lever can't drop down and out. I attached a pic. Let me know if that is what you are referring to.

Joe
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Wednesday, July 15th, 2020 AT 7:05 PM
Tiny
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Good morning Joe. Yes, I do have that off, but what part do I turn? I have tried the rod it connects too and it will not turn. Thank you for all your help!
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 4:13 AM
Tiny
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Okay, I was able to get it out and the new solenoid put on. I got everything back in place and put together and now I can’t shift out of park. Could the bolts to the valve body be too tight?
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 11:00 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Does the shifter move? I need to know if it is related to the park interlock or if the shifter is moving but there is no response from the transmission.

If the shifter is moving, do this. Have a helper shift through the gears while you watch where the linkage is attached on the transmission. Make sure it is actually turning the shift rod. It could be loose.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 2:20 PM
Tiny
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The shifter doesn’t move at all.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 3:44 PM
Tiny
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This is going to sound crazy, but are the brake lights working? The park lock actuator is powered by the brake light switch.

Let me know that and let me know if you have a steering column shifter or floor shift.

Also, if you disconnect the linkage at the transmission, can you shift it manually at the transmission?

Let me know.
Joe
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 5:12 PM
Tiny
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I can’t move it at all on the transmission. That’s why I asked if maybe I tightened the bolts too tight. That didn’t sound stupid at all as you never know what causes an issue.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 8:01 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

If it doesn't turn at the transmission with it disconnected, I suspect the manual valve or shaft which attaches to the shift cable were not properly installed. The manual shift valve is operated via the cable through the shift lever shaft. When you installed them, do you remember having any trouble? Were you able to turn the shift shaft prior to reinstalling the valve body?

See the attached two pics.

Let me know.
Joe

PS: I don't know if you already looked at my reply, but I found two better pics for you. Pic 3 is what is called the "rooster comb" and pic 4 shows it's retainer. Did you install the retainer screw?
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 8:36 PM
Tiny
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Woo hoo, I got it all back together. It was that little rocker like arm not going into place. But, the reason I did all this was to replace the Solenoid Pack because my car wouldn’t go out of second gear. Bought a new one and it’s all installed, full of fluid. Still won’t go out of second. :( Any ideas?
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 9:30 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

If it is in second (limp mode), there should be diagnostic trouble codes stored in the computer. At this point, you need to scan the computer to retrieve codes that hopefully will direct us.

In this case, I recommend what is called a CAN scan. CAN stands for computer area network. Because this is transmission related, we need to check the transmission control module as well as others to see if there is a fault. Here is a link that explains how to CAN scan the vehicle and why it is more helpful than the traditional OBD2 scans which target one module:

https://youtu.be/InIlnsjOVFA

Let me know if that is something you can do. Without a basic scan which can read TCM codes, it becomes a guessing game. Hope you understand.

Here is a list of basic OBD2 codes. I'm adding them in the event you need them.

https://www.2carpros.com/trouble_codes/obd2

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Friday, July 17th, 2020 AT 2:43 PM

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