Transmission symptoms no codes

Tiny
MR.HONDA24
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  • 2008 MAZDA TRIBUTE
  • 2.3L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • 162,000 MILES
I have the vehicle listed above that I just bought and finding out bad things.
I believe I have the cd4e transmission and I am having hard shifts in D. And especially at from P to R.

I have some scanner software that picked up quite a bit of loadable parameters and I noticed that the line pressure spikes when shifting from P to R in the 125-170 psi range.
I also have a line pressure chart from ALLData that it does work in the nominal ranges. It just spikes.

I am trying to figure out if this transmission is worth the hassle and wait for codes. Replace the shift solenoid pack. Or get a re-manufactured transmission?
Friday, May 10th, 2019 AT 6:28 PM

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Tiny
KASEKENNY
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Hi Mr. Honda,

It is normal for a transmission to spike to full line pressure in between shifts but the harsh engagement should be cushioned by the accumulators so that you have a smooth engagement and you don't feel the effects of higher line pressure.

If this engagement is exceptionally harsh then the decision is based on how far are you willing to go? Once you open the unit to replace/repair the valve body, accumulators and shift solenoids, you should perform an air check on the clutch packs. If you find an issue there then you will need to perform a complete rebuild.

In my opinion, once you need to go into the unit and you are close to 200,000 miles and it has not just been rebuilt, it is always a good idea to just do a complete rebuild or replace the unit. A transmission is not one of those items that you want to try and make band aid repairs once you open it up. It is too much of a hassle and once you change on thing, most likely something else is not going to function the same causing you to go back in because you will not know that until you get it back together and drive it. I have learned this from experience.

If you want to repair any of it let me know and I can send you the procedure but from the sound of it you already have access to Alldata to pull it.

Please let me know if there is anything else you need. Thanks

Here is an article that will give some other ideas as well that I may have missed.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/automatic-transmission-problems
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Saturday, May 11th, 2019 AT 11:23 AM
Tiny
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Thank you for response. The only thing I can do on it is try try to repair the valve body with a shift kit. And possibly test solenoid pack. I’m not sure if I can do this yet or buy a new pack.
I unfortunately do not have tools or am this mechanically inclined to pull transmission out and rebuild it.
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Saturday, May 11th, 2019 AT 2:10 PM
Tiny
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Okay. Doing a valve body and shift kit may not address a harsh engagement. In fact, the shift kit may make it worse. It is probably worth a try but I would count it as a bonus if it addresses any shifting issues.

Let me know how I can assist and I will be happy to help. Thanks
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Saturday, May 11th, 2019 AT 3:02 PM
Tiny
MR.HONDA24
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  • 2008 MAZDA TRIBUTE
  • 2.3L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 160,000 MILES
I tried replying to my previous thread for help from tech KENNY, but I don’t think it’s working.

To update: transmission issues rough going into reverse and 1, 2, so on mellows out intermittently.

I wanted to bring something up I thought about from the seller I got this from.
One more thing. The fella that owned this before me swapped in a new motor. He could not get this to fire over because he did not have set timing on harmonic balancer.( Hole on balancer points to 6 o' clock). This got me irritated because I’m sure he took the TTY bolt and reused it without proper torque applied and probably off on TDC. Now I need to check when I start on suspension kit.

Would CPS have an affect on the PCM, transmission in causing a hard shift if there is a misalignment at crank pulley?
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Wednesday, May 15th, 2019 AT 8:52 AM (Merged)

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