Transmission shifting rough

Good afternoon.

There ia a TSB on this which involves a reflash on the TCM. I would suggest calling your local dealer and ask them if they are familiar with this issue.

Roy

Group: AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE

Number: 08-AT-003

Date: MAY, 2008

Model:
1999 SONATA, 2001 06 ELANTRA, 2001 SANTA FE & XG, 2003 TIBURON, 2005 TUCSON, 2006 AZERA, 2007 ENTOURAGE

SUBJECT:
AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE HARSH AND/OR DELAYED UPSHIFT OR DOWNSHIFT - GDS ANALYSIS

This TSB supersedes TSB 07-40-010 to correct the labor time for OP Code 95440RP0 and 95440PQ0.

DESCRIPTION:

If you are diagnosing an automatic transaxle with a harsh and/or delayed upshift or downshift, follow the Diagnostic Procedure shown below.

DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE:

1. Check the ATF level when the engine is idling in "N" according to TSB 06-40-016. Adjust the ATF level as needed.

2. Reset and relearn the adaptive values according to TSB 06-40-005.

3. Compare to a similar model and year vehicle. If the shift delay is longer than the comparison vehicle, continue with the diagnosis.

4. Attach the GDS and check for Diagnostic Trouble Codes in both the "Engine" and "Automatic Transaxle" menu. If DTC's are found, repair according to the appropriate TSB or shop manual.

NOTE:
Ask an assistant to drive the vehicle as you monitor the GDS.

Attach the GDS and select the following:

VIN and "A/T"

"Current Data"

"Shift position"

"Vehicle speed"

"Low-Reverse solenoid duty"

"Underdrive solenoid duty"

"OD solenoid duty"

"2nd solenoid duty"

"Reduction solenoid duty" (if 5-speed transaxle)

Accelerate the vehicle and shift from 1-2-3-4-(5 if equipped).

Select "Record" (on top right of screen)

Select "PC Record" (on left of screen) and save the file.

UPSHIFT COMMANDS FROM PCM OR TCM:

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Open the GDS program and select:

VIN and "A/T"

"Flight Record" and "Data Review"

"Items List" (top right of screen) and select: "Vehicle speed" and "Shift position".

PCM/TCM DIAGNOSIS:

Confirm the PCM or TCM commanded each gear: 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (if equipped):

If so, go to pages 3 6 and evaluate the upshift diagnosis for the related shift.

If not, exchange a PCM or TCM from a properly operating vehicle and test again to determine if the PCM or TCM commanded each gear:

If the condition is improved, replace the PCM or TCM

If the condition is not improved, go to page 3 6 and evaluate the upshift performance.

1-2 UPSHIFT DIAGNOSIS:

Open the GDS program and select: VIN and "A/T", "Flight Record" and "Data Review"

Select "Items List" (top right of screen) and select: "2nd Solenoid Duty", "Underdrive Solenoid Duty" and "Shift Position".

Click the "+" or "-" buttons to choose 0.7 sec./Div or less.

Move the cursor to the start of the shift and "Left click".

Move the cursor to the end of the shift and "Right click".

Read the 2nd solenoid elapsed time at the top right of the screen. If the 1-2 shift requires more than 2.0 seconds, exchange a PCM or TCM from a properly operating vehicle and follow TSB 06-40-005, "Reset and Relearn Adaptive Values":

If the condition is improved, replace the PCM or TCM

If the condition is not improved, replace the transaxle.

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NOTE:
The 2nd solenoid elapsed time is important; the shape of the graph is not.

2-3 UPSHIFT DIAGNOSIS:

Open the GDS program and select: VIN and "A/T", "Flight Record" and "Data Review"

Select "Items List" (top right of screen) and select: "Underdrive Solenoid Duty", "Overdrive Solenoid Duty" and "Shift Position".

Select the "+" or "-" button to choose 0.7 sec./Div or less.

Move the cursor to the start of the shift and "Left click".

Move the cursor to the end of the shift and "Right click".

Read the OD solenoid elapsed time at the top right of the screen. If the 2-3 shift requires more than 2.0 seconds, exchange a PCM or TCM from a properly operating vehicle and follow TSB 06-40-005, "Reset and Relearn Adaptive values":

If the condition is improved, replace the PCM or TCM

If the condition is not improved, replace the transaxle.

NOTE:
The OD solenoid elapsed time is important; the shape of the graph is not.

3-4 UPSHIFT DIAGNOSIS:

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Open the GDS program and select: VIN and "A/T", "Flight Record" and "Data Review"

Select "Items List" (top right of screen) and select: "2nd Solenoid Duty", "Overdrive Solenoid Duty" and "Shift Position".

Select the "+" or "-" button to choose 0.7 sec./Div or less.

Move the cursor to the start of the shift and "Left click".

Move the cursor to the end of the shift and "Right click".

Read the 2nd solenoid elapsed time at the top right of the screen. If the 3-4 shift requires more than 2.0 seconds, exchange a PCM or TCM from a properly operating vehicle and follow TSB 06-40-005, "Reset and Relearn Adaptive Values":

If the condition is improved, replace the PCM or TCM

If the condition is not improved, replace the transaxle.

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NOTE:
The 2nd solenoid elapsed time is important; the shape is not.

4-5 UPSHIFT DIAGNOSIS:

Open the GDS program and select: VIN and "A/T", "Flight Record" and "Data Review"

Select "Items List" (top right of screen) and select: "Reduction Solenoid Duty", Low-Reverse Solenoid Duty and "Shift Position".

Select the "+" or "-" button to choose 0.7 sec./Div or less.

Move the cursor to the start of the shift and "Left click".

Move the cursor to the end of the shift and "Right click".

Read the LR solenoid elapsed time at the top right of the screen. If the 4-5 shift requires more than 2.0 seconds, exchange a PCM or TCM from a properly operating vehicle and follow TSB 06-40-005, "Reset and Relearn Adaptive Values":

If the condition is improved, replace the PCM or TCM

If the condition is not improved, replace the transaxle.

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NOTE:
The LR solenoid elapsed time is important; the shape of the graph is not.

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WARRANTY INFORMATION:

NOTE:
Warranty Claim requires input of DTC codes on all claims using Hi-Scan or GDS operations. If no DTC code is identified by the Hi-scan or GDS, enter P0000 as a Scan Tool Test Code on the Warranty Claim and attach printout from the Hi-scan or GDS to the Repair Order.

NOTE:
Printouts must be attached to all Repair Orders. Repair Orders without attached printouts are subject to chargeback.

This would need to be done by a dealer unless a technician has the dealer program to do this update.

I do not know where you live but around my area, this update is $200.00 to $250.00.

That is assuming it is the issue. I would look at this first because after this you are talking transmission.

Roy

Yes, it did. I have had a few do this and the re-flash took care of it. The others required a transmission rebuild.

Roy

No to the fluid change.

You cannot do a reset for this. Removing a battery cable does absolutely nothing.

The re-flash is what you need to do and this will need to be done by either a dealer or a shop with the ability to access the factory web site and download and install the update.

Roy

Over time it will fail.

I am not saying today or tomorrow but the longer you wait to get it checked. Yes, it could compound the issue.

Roy