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Transmission not shift first to second gear properly and refuse to go to fourth gear

Tiny
PHALSOTHY
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  • 2004 KIA PICANTO
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Dear, I have problem after transmission rebuild. My car will not shift from first to second gear properly. It change after it reach twenty to twenty five km/h and it rev 3000 rpm to reach twenty five km/h in first gear and at eighty km/h. My car has to rev to 3000 rpm and not change to fourth gear. When I try to check the code using my elm mini with my phone it show P0741, P0748, C2B18, C0307, C0100 and P0056. What is that problem? The workshop man seem no idea about that. Thank you in advance.
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Thursday, February 15th, 2018 AT 2:58 AM

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Tiny
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Most of these are related to valve body electrical problems, shift valve, converter lock up clutch check and clean all terminals in the harness plug at the transmission and make sure that this plus is tight see if that improves matters.
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Thursday, February 15th, 2018 AT 3:24 AM
Tiny
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Thank you so much for your response, cleaning and check all the plug have been done, but these just slightly improve still having the same problem. What should I done next? Thank you.
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Thursday, February 15th, 2018 AT 3:51 AM
Tiny
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It sounds like you have a shift solenoid that is not working. I would test through the winding's to see if there is continuity. Also, check the four fuses that run the system. You can see which ones from the diagram below.

Here is a guide to help us get started:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

Also, there is a ranger selector switch I would test as well.

Here is the transmission wiring diagrams so you can get started.

Check out the diagrams (below).

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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Saturday, February 17th, 2018 AT 11:48 AM
Tiny
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Thank you for your reply. I am planing to check and change the torque converter Clutch solenoid and pressure control solenoid. After I have checked it I will reply to you back.

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Sothy
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Saturday, February 17th, 2018 AT 1:59 PM
Tiny
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Dear, I have just check the wire and change the torque converter clutch and pressure control solenoid but the problem still exist. Now planing to change the shift solenoid. But I do not understand the shift solenoid, I have two shift solenoid and my transmission type is JF405E.
Thank you,
sothy
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Sunday, February 18th, 2018 AT 4:55 PM
Tiny
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The wiring diagram shows five solenoids? Can you upload pictures oft he valve body so I can point them out?
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Monday, February 19th, 2018 AT 9:36 AM
Tiny
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Dear,

this is my valve body, totaly it is only 4 solenoid, 1 for tcc, 1 for pressure cotrol solenoid and 2 for shift solenoid, dont understand hiw shift work with that 2 solenoid. On more think I just notice that my actual valve body was missing (just a hole but nothing there) the one at the re circle, what it is function and what if it dont have that one?

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sothy
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Monday, February 19th, 2018 AT 3:44 PM
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The hole is weird there was nothing in the pan that maybe has fallen out?
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Tuesday, February 20th, 2018 AT 12:02 PM
Tiny
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Dear Mr. Ken

Yes that is weird cos I see the other valve body the same to my car was fill with some cover (the first picture), but what its function and what happen when it is dont have like mine?

Thank you so much
Sothy
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Tuesday, February 20th, 2018 AT 3:15 PM
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Not sure. There was nothing in the pan like someone put it together that way? Maybe is for a extra gear like 5th and you don't have it?
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Tuesday, February 20th, 2018 AT 5:03 PM
Tiny
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I dont know but I have checked the same valve body only that thing is different from mine. Same make same year same model, but the differrent is only that one. And I have change all the solenoid but its has the same issue.
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Tuesday, February 20th, 2018 AT 5:12 PM
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It is beginning to sounds like you have an internal lip seal or clutch pack that is going out. It might be time for a rebuild.
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Wednesday, February 21st, 2018 AT 9:35 AM
Tiny
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So if I have the spare part for that hole, I should be place. Thx u very much
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Wednesday, February 21st, 2018 AT 3:30 PM
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Did you do the rebuild yourself? Seems like a valve is missing from the area mentioned.
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Thursday, February 22nd, 2018 AT 6:41 AM
Tiny
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Thank you for your reply.
No, I didn't rebuild my self.
Actually my tran was rebuild in the garage and change with the new tran but not the same one just the similar one (mine is Kia Picanto 2004, Workman tran was Suzuki Wagon r but the tran was the same model JF405E), after that it good but have mention problem above. Latter I try to check on valve body on my own and than I seeing this hole.
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Thursday, February 22nd, 2018 AT 2:28 PM
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I would try a rebuild valve body and look to see if there is a difference.

Here is a diagrams on how to change it out.

Please run this test and get back to us.

Cheers, Ken
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Friday, February 23rd, 2018 AT 9:36 AM
Tiny
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Thank you very much will try that and get back to you soon. Cheers. :D

sothy
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Friday, February 23rd, 2018 AT 5:01 PM
Tiny
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Dear,
i have one more question according to obd2 scanner, my car show me my engine coolant -49c and I cant check my tran fluid temp. What is wrong with that?

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sothy
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Saturday, February 24th, 2018 AT 10:20 PM
Tiny
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O man, that can cause the issue for sure. I would replace the sensor here is a guide to help show you what you are in for when doing the job.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/coolant-temperature-sensor-cts-replacement

Here is the location.

Please run down this guide and report back

Cheers, Ken
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Monday, February 26th, 2018 AT 11:38 AM
Tiny
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Oh ok thx you, will report back to you.
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Monday, February 26th, 2018 AT 4:05 PM

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