1995 Toyota Tercel LOUD SQUEAKING BRAKES

DIANE30

MEMBER
1995 TOYOTA TERCEL
4 CYL
2WD
AUTOMATIC
102,000 MILES

I HAVE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. EVERYTIME IT RAINS OR IN THE WINTER WITH THE MOISTURE, MY CAR SQUEAKS WHEN I APPLY THE BRAKES THE FIRST 2-3 TIMES. I REALLY NEED TO GIVE IT A GOOD BREAK AND THEN IT STOPS. I PARK IT AND AFTER A COUPLE OF HOURS IT DOES THE SAME THING AGAIN.

i HAVE HAS EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT BY MIDAS AND THINGS HAVE BEEN CHNAGED BRAKES, SHOES, PADS, ROTORS.

THIS LAST TIME I WENT AND THEY SAID THE DRUMS ARE RUSTED AND THE WATER COULD BE GETTING INSIDE TO THE BRAKES AND CAUSING THIS.

iS THERE ANY TRUTH TO THIS. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE PROBLEM.

DESPERATE FOR HELP

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RASMATAZ

MECHANIC
75,992 POSTS

DISC BRAKE SQUEAL
Complaints about brake squeal became a problem when front-wheel drive and semi-metallic brakes arrived on the scene in the 1980s. Semi-metallic pads are harder than their asbestos counterparts, and thus are more apt to chatter and squeal if there are any irregularities or roughness on the rotor surface, or if you notice looseness between the pads and calipers.

Some types of caliper designs are more apt to be noisy than others. The pads in these calipers may not be held as tightly and/or the caliper itself may move around a lot when the brakes are applied. And, as we said earlier, the greater the play in the system, the greater the tendency to make noise. That's why some new car dealers try to dismiss the problem by telling their customers some noise is "normal", leaving the customer no alternative but to live with the problem or to get it fixed by somebody else.

Trying to fix a squeal problem the wrong way can often make the problem worse. If somebody does a quick brake job and replaces the brake pads but doe snot resurface the rotors, the result can be an even louder squeal. The same can happen if the rotors are resurfaced incorrectly, too quickly or with dull tools. Excessive rotor runout can also cause problems.

DRUM BRAKE NOISE
One of the leading causes of brake squeal in drum brakes is poor contact between the shoes and drum. Heel and toe contact between the shoe and drum is often the culprit, and the cure is to either replace the shoes with new ones or to resurface the drum slightly to increase its inside diameter. New shoes are ground with a slight eccentric to compensate for drum wear.

This moves the point of contact away from the ends of the shoes toward the middle. In the old days, mechanics used to arc shoes to match their shape to the drum. But, with the concerns about asbestos, shoe grinding is pretty much a thing of the past (although some say it will make a comeback as more and more new cars switch to non-asbestos linings on their drum brakes).