Torque converter?

Tiny
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I've asked Google and it said that I needed to add grease to the transmission before putting the torque converter on and filling the torque converter up with one quart of transmission fluid before putting it on. Do I need to do all that it's a CVT transmission if that makes any difference?
Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025 AT 5:05 PM

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Tiny
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The process on an empty transmission is to make sure the splines are clean, then apply a thin coat of CVTF+4 to the seals and spline and then install the converter. Then measure the depth of the converter to be sure it is seated. You want at least 13 mm between the surfaces shown. Then you install the transmission and fill it with 8 liters of CVTF+4. Now start the engine and let it idle. Shut it off and check the fluid level based on fluid temperature using the 9336A Dipstick installed in the dipstick tube.
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Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025 AT 6:45 PM
Tiny
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Okay thank you. Also, when putting the torque converter on the four bolts that I put back in it do they need to be tort with a torque wrench? And does it matter which of the four bolt holes I start with I've seen on a video that on the flywheel I think that's what it's called that one of the holes has two sides of it flat and that's the one you start with on there but does it matter which hole you start with on the torque converter?
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Thursday, April 3rd, 2025 AT 7:31 AM
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The attached is the torque specs and the steps to use to install it.
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Thursday, April 3rd, 2025 AT 1:05 PM
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Thank you for all your help, one more thing. I've seen on Google that if you get a new transmission that you're supposed to get new axles is that true or can I use and keep my old ones?
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Friday, April 4th, 2025 AT 12:41 PM
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The axles shouldn't be an issue, unless they are damaged.
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Friday, April 4th, 2025 AT 3:44 PM
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The transmission I bought, one of the bolt holes for the transmission pan is stripped is the whole transmission trash now or can I still use it?
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Saturday, April 5th, 2025 AT 2:50 PM
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If it's only stripped of the threads just install a Heli-coil in the hole and it will be fine. Lots of videos out there on the process, but it's basically, drill out the hole, thread with the special tap, install the insert, Break off the install tang. Finished.
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Sunday, April 6th, 2025 AT 5:20 AM
Tiny
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Would you happen to know what size Heli-coil I need to get for the transmission pan on a 2014 Jeep Patriot 2.0?
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Sunday, April 6th, 2025 AT 9:08 AM
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I figured out what size but now I need to know how tight do I torque these bolts for the transmission pan?
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Sunday, April 6th, 2025 AT 1:13 PM
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70 inch pounds.
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Sunday, April 6th, 2025 AT 1:24 PM
Tiny
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On the round thing in the middle of the transmission I believe that's called the torque converter the four bolts in it does it matter which one I start with?
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Sunday, April 6th, 2025 AT 6:28 PM
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The pilot will center in the crankshaft, then you pick a bolt, start to tighten it, then rotate to the next and put it in, then repeat back to the first one. You want it to seat evenly, now go around again and tighten them snug. Check the alignment and torque them down. If you remove the spark plugs it makes it much easier.
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Sunday, April 6th, 2025 AT 7:42 PM
Tiny
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So I finished putting the transmission in and everything back together on my 2014 Jeep Patriot 2.0 CVT transmission in it as well. So I just finished and I got a test drive it and I can't get over 20 mph I don't have no power whenever I push on the gas I can push it all the way to the floor and it's still barely goes I'm not sure what's going on my check engine light is on the only code that popped up was P167A calibration mismatch! I have no idea what that is the person that O'Reilly's couldn't tell me anything! Also this is on the papers they print it out but they didn't say anything about these codes is this something I have to fix as well?
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Saturday, April 12th, 2025 AT 10:06 AM
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That means the vehicles TCM doesn't like the information stored on the chip in the transmission. It will require a scan tool and connection to Jeep corporate to download the proper file in order to perform the TCM relearn. It basically says that the CVT was replaced but not calibrated to your vehicle. Once calibrated then you can test it.
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Saturday, April 12th, 2025 AT 2:05 PM
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Okay thank you how do I go about doing that is that something I can do or I have to pay someone to do?
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Sunday, April 13th, 2025 AT 9:40 AM
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If you have a WiTech 2.0 tool that can do J2534 bus programming and pay for the access to the Stellantis service information site https://www.mopartsp.com/login , you could DIY. If not you need a shop that can do it.
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Sunday, April 13th, 2025 AT 1:32 PM
Tiny
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And how much does that usually cost
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Sunday, April 13th, 2025 AT 2:35 PM
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Depends on the shop, some are pretty low, others are very expensive. The equipment to DIY it the lowest price scan tool that can do it runs about $3,000.00 plus the extra programming cost that runs about $100.00
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Sunday, April 13th, 2025 AT 4:15 PM
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And how much does a shop usually charge to reprogram the transmission chip?
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Monday, April 14th, 2025 AT 11:49 AM
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Hard to say exactly because it depends on location and shop practice. Most use 1 hour minimum, others charge you for that plus the connection fee they pay. Also can depend on if they already have an account as that can be a pain these days.
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Monday, April 14th, 2025 AT 12:08 PM

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