Strange noise, A/C component suspected?

Tiny
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  • 2000 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL
  • 4.6L
  • V8
  • 2WD
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  • 42,875 MILES
I just replaced the PCM on this car and it's running well. There were many error messages and malfunctions going on before the replacement, including that the car wouldn't start. At one point, I don't know if it is related or coincidental, it started making an unmistakable noise when the ignition was turned to "on." It had nothing to do with the engine or trying to start it. It would stop in 30 to 60 seconds. It was coming from the passenger side and sounded like it was under the dash. After checking the engine side and passenger side of the firewall it sounded more likely to be on the inside passenger side to me. It sounded quite similar to a windshield wiper in action. (I have included an audio attachment of it). The person who got the PCM working, and the chip keys set up said it had something to do a gear trying to engage in some component of the A/C system. (I hope I have that straight). In any case, the car is otherwise fine, but it still makes the noise and there is no AC to cool us in our incredibly hot/humid Southwest Florida summer weather. Any insight(s) would be really appreciated. "Filetype not allowed."
PS I couldn't upload the audio recording (message).
Tuesday, September 10th, 2024 AT 1:21 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

By chance, did he indicate that the noise was from a faulty blend door actuator? If you turn the heater on, do you get hot air?

The blend air door actuator determines if the air entering the vehicle is heated or cooled. I attached directions for replacing it below, but before that, access it to see if that is where the noise is coming from.

The actuator is on the passenger side under the dash. Take a look through the directions and let me know if you have questions.

Let me know what you find.

Joe

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Tuesday, September 10th, 2024 AT 6:50 PM
Tiny
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I will check it out. I've never done this before. Is this part hard to get at to replace? Any chance you have the correct OEM part number for this part or could direct me to where to look for it?
Thank you for your help.
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Tuesday, September 10th, 2024 AT 7:34 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

It really isn't too hard of a job. The flat rate time for a shop to replace it is 30 minutes. I attached a pic below showing the approx location. If you follow the directions above, you should be okay. Also, you can ask me questions as needed.

As far as the OEM part number, because of the model year, I don't have it. If you can't find one at a parts store, let me know and I'll try to help find one with you.

Take care,

Joe

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Wednesday, September 11th, 2024 AT 6:00 PM
Tiny
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Joe, I appreciate your help. Today I did the first step in the prior set of pictures. I'm sending 2 YouTube video links because they show the same thing I saw after this step, (in which I still couldn't see the actuator). The two videos do not show professionals doing the job. They tore everything up to get at the actuator, but the value of the videos is that they show where the part is. It looks like to do it properly you would have to take the entire dashboard off along with the console. Replacing the part itself looks quite easy but getting to it looks quite elaborate and difficult.

The links to the videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEM3BwFOFWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CclV5EKc3Ho

I found part # PZ1Z19E616H on https://parts.ford.com/. I spoke with a person who said that part is obsolete and gave me part #F7DZ19E616BA, which she said they don't have but to look for aftermarket parts. Both part #'s she gave say they are not for this car on this website, the picture doesn't look like the right one and no one I could find has either number. I am going back to that website tomorrow. Both videos showed the original actuator which are relatively small flat boxes with a white (threaded ?) tube sticking out at 90°. I will take and send some pictures of what it looks like with the glove compartment out.
Thanks again
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Wednesday, September 11th, 2024 AT 8:57 PM
Tiny
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As an example of where the actuator is, Look at about 1:39 of the first of the 2 videos above, and compare to my pictures. To orient the two, look at my photo where the colored wires and the small verticle black panel with 3 bright silver-colored bolts are, and then see in the videos where the actuator is in relation to that position. I also sent the video in which you can hear the noise it makes for a few seconds.
As far as I can tell the Ford part # is F7DZ19E616BA, which they no longer make. Amazon has a Dorman substitute on Amazon: "Dorman 604-207 HVAC Blend Door Actuator." If you know of a better way to go please let me know.
That appears to cover the part, but getting to it in the car looks very difficult.
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Thursday, September 12th, 2024 AT 1:46 PM
Tiny
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The white arrow in the picture is pointing at where the actuator is located, but it is behind a sort of wall and to get in a position where you could get your hands on it and be able to replace it you would have to remove the dashboard and part of the console, and who knows what else.
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Thursday, September 12th, 2024 AT 2:25 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Would you be able to access it if the floor panel was removed? The directions indicate that it gets removed and then a cover.

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, September 12th, 2024 AT 8:30 PM
Tiny
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I'm afraid I don't even know what the floor panel is. I will look under the dash and to the left of the glove compartment area to see if there is anything that can be unbolted or popped off.
I contacted a local Lincoln dealer to confirm the (obsolete) part number. I then asked him what they would do if a Lincoln owner came to them to fix it. He said they don't. They don't do any work, other than things like an oil change for cars this old. (It is a 2000 but literally in like new condition, with 42,850 miles on it. I asked what does Ford expect us to do, drop the car off at a junk yard? (The person I was speaking to didn't answer, but I got the impression he was sympathetic).
We are in SW Florida where the temperature/humidity is literally brutal 6 months of the year. We moved here from New York 8 years ago and have yet to find an auto mechanic shop that gives you the impression they know what they are doing, but they are very good at running up big-time bills.
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Friday, September 13th, 2024 AT 5:13 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

To access the cover, the floor console needs removed. I attached the directions below for removing it. Let me know if you are comfortable performing the procedure.

Let me know.

Joe

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Friday, September 13th, 2024 AT 8:40 PM

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