Smoke test and EGR modulator

Tiny
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  • 2001 TOYOTA CAMRY
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Performed a smoke test for vacuum leak, only spot leaking is from under the cap of EGR vacuum modulator (the hole to the modulator filter). Is it normal? Thanks.
Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 2:33 PM

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Tiny
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Good afternoon.

Is this what you are talking about?

This is called a VSV valve.

Roy
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Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 2:46 PM
Tiny
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Thank you! No, it is the EGR vacuum modulator with diaphragm in it. Might be specific to Toyota?
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Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 2:52 PM
Tiny
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Okay, got it.

That is sold as part of the valve itself.

To answer your question, no, it should not leak any smoke.

Roy
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Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 3:08 PM
Tiny
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Thanks a lot Roy! Yes it is the part. Must be the diaphragm broken. I have been chasing for a reason why rpm behaves erratic after cold start, this should be it.
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Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 3:23 PM
Tiny
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You are welcome.

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Thursday, September 27th, 2018 AT 3:51 PM
Tiny
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Hi Roy or any other pros,
Please excuse me for bringing this topic back. With manuals etc, I did thorough tests on my EGR modulator both on-vehicle and off (with vacuum gauge). All indicate this part is still good.

And per some readings, the EGR modulator (at least for Toyota) is designed to be open to air at engine off. So I am very confused, as leaking smoke appears to be normal during a smoke test for vacuum leak. Any advice appreciated.
-Simon
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Monday, October 1st, 2018 AT 2:19 PM
Tiny
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It could be vented to the atmosphere when the engine is off. Does the new part do the same thing?
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Thursday, October 4th, 2018 AT 12:13 PM
Tiny
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Thanks Ken. I did not replace it. I did a couple of tests particular on the modulator: (1) Sealed the vent hole with a piece of tap and (cold) start the car, idle still behaved the same. (2) Spray carburetor cleaner to the modulator after cold start, no change to idle. So this part must be good.

You are right that the modulator is open to air when engine off. Just so surprised that this was never noted anywhere as to vacuum leak test.
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Thursday, October 4th, 2018 AT 8:37 PM
Tiny
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Yep, this is not typical so most miss it. Use 2CarPros anytime, we are here to help. Please tell a friend.

Cheers, Ken
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Saturday, October 6th, 2018 AT 3:10 PM
Tiny
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Sure will do. This is a great site for DIYers with nice pros help. Thanks Ken.
-Simon
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Saturday, October 6th, 2018 AT 6:03 PM

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