Shaking in rear end

Tiny
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In the last month we have had to change the outer tire rods and wheel bearings on our car because of shaking in the front end. We also replaced three tires. We then found out when put up and made to press the gas while the tires spun that we had two bad rims. So we switched the rims around. Now the rear end is shaking extremely had especially when we accelerate over forty mph. Once we reach sixty mph it smooths out. My boyfriend just called on his way home and said he now hears a clanking noise in the rear and thinks it may be the ball joints. Please someone help! We have tried every single thing possible!
Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 4:27 PM

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Tiny
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Have the steering and suspension systems inspected at a tire and alignment shop. The people there are experts at finding the causes of noises, vibrations, and bad tire wear.

Wheel bearings, ball joints, and tie rod ends will not cause shaking or vibrations. Worn parts like tie rod ends can allow a wheel to shake, but the actual shaking is always caused by something that is rotating. In this case you found the front wheels were bent. You moved the bent wheels to the rear, now the rear shakes, and you have not figured out the cause?
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Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 5:53 PM
Tiny
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He said it is shaking in the front again too. And I noticed when driving last night the shaking was at like a side to side vibration. If that makes any sense?
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Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 5:55 PM
Tiny
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Yes it does. If you can also see or feel this at slow speeds, as when driving through a parking lot, a real good suspect is a broken belt in a tire. I did not mention that before because you said you replaced three tires, but if those were used tires, I just went through this with my old 1994 Grand Voyager. I have only run used tires for the last thirty years. Of the last set I put on, three developed broken belts about two months apart. The last one was so bad, my teeth just about vibrated out of my head!

The first thing to do is spin a tire and watch the tread for a noticeable bulge or tumor. If you do not see that, there is another, more difficult test I can describe.
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Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 6:22 PM
Tiny
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Other test? I am sorry not trying to take up too much time just trying to figure this out.
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Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 6:38 PM
Tiny
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Anytime you see a bulge or a wobble in the tread as you spin the tire, you are done. Replace it. It is when you feel the hard bouncing at highway speeds, or the subtle sideways rocking feeling at low speeds, that further inspection is required. I learned this in the 1980's from a service adviser who had an uncanny ability to identify what was needed to solve a customer's problem. He sold someone a pair of new tires. When I removed them, I did not see anything wrong and assumed he was selling parts that were not needed. I put those tires on my car, and within a month, both had broken belts. I was frosted that he knew what to look for and I did not.

Those bulges and tumors I mentioned are real easy to spot. Every once in a while you can see the wobbling tread on the car in front of you. This is the left tire in my nifty drawing. The lower right corner shows the hump you would see from in front of the car as you spin that tire. The gray area is the hump on the lower tire as you would see it from the side of the car.

The more subtle cause is easiest to find when the car is in the air on a hoist. Once you have finished watching the tread surface that contacts the road, and that was found to be true, look inside the grooves in the tread at the bottoms of those grooves. As the tire spins slowly, most of the grooves look like the blue sections in the tire on the right of my sad drawing. You are looking for a section where it bumps up a little as shown by the red section. What has happened here is the belt has started breaking but it has been going on so slowly, as the hump builds up, tread has had time to wear flat. This is where the belt is going to fail completely real soon, and is in fact what happened to those two old tires I put on my car.

Be aware all tires also have wear bars in the same part of the tread, but those go all the way across the tread and are not very wide. You will see those in multiple places around the tire and are not related to a broken belt.
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Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 9:06 PM
Tiny
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Thank you so much for your thorough response! I am going to let my boyfriend read this and let him look into it. You are awesome! Regardless if in fact that is the problem but the fact you went into detail. Amazing!
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Thursday, March 29th, 2018 AT 9:10 PM
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CARADIODOC is one of our best!

Please let us know what you find. We are interested to see what it is.

Cheers, Ken
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Monday, April 2nd, 2018 AT 11:21 AM

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