Ruined engine

Tiny
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A few months ago my car overheated due to a leak in the radiator. I took it to a garage where they replaced the radiator as well as the head gasket which had also been damaged. Shortly after getting the car back my low oil pressure light came on. I took it back to the garage where they found metal shavings, silicone and a large piece of metal in my oil pan. The mechanics were unable to identify the large piece of metal. They cleaned it out and ran fresh oil through and I was back on the street. Shortly after that my check engine light came on. I took the car to another mechanic who identified the metal as a piece of the thrust bearing. Having looked on the internet that seems correct. He said the car may continue or the other piece of the thrust bearing may break causing the engine to cease. That is what happened a week or so after. I then took the car to a different garage where they replaced the motor and other parts that were damaged like the clutch, water pump, etc. There they found that excessive silicone on the old motor and blocked key oil holes causing the engine to cease. I am wondering if silicone is used in replacing a head gasket? I have been told conflicting things. If not on the gasket directly is it used when replacing the engine cover? I have pictures that show large amounts of silicone on the timing chain and around that area. Prior to overheating the car ran great so I am convinced that some sort of work done was done poorly, causing me to need a new motor. Alternatively, if the damage was already done when the car originally overheated, why would the first shop not have seen that? Then at least I would have saved the money to replace the head gasket on a motor that stopped shortly after. Any info you can share is greatly appreciated!
Tuesday, April 16th, 2013 AT 2:10 PM

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Tiny
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Ok, the overheating caused the hole issue, even the thrust bearing. That happened from the coolant destroying the bearings that led to complete failure.

As far as the sealer, yes they used way too much and that did contribute to the engine failure but it would have failed anyway.

If you took it to court, you would loose as you started the original issue and the result would have been the same

Roy
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Tuesday, April 16th, 2013 AT 4:42 PM
Tiny
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Thank you Roy I greatly appreciate your time and response. Still wondering however, if the damage was done when the vehicle initially overheated, why was that not seen earlier? They took the old engine to a machine shop to test for further damage beyond the head gasket then stated there was no further damage and continued with the repairs which only lasted a short while before I needed a new engine.
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Wednesday, April 17th, 2013 AT 3:33 PM
Tiny
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Did they actually remove the engine and send it out? Does not make sense. They may have sent the head but not the block?

They did not look hard enough is my opinion

Roy
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Wednesday, April 17th, 2013 AT 3:50 PM
Tiny
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They pressure tested the cylinder head/resurfaced the cylinder head to check for cracks/extended damage. Would the damage to the block/broken thrust bearing not be part of the inspection when replacing a head gasket? The cylinder head check was obviously an additional cost, I would hope that the engine would be fully inspected at that time. I understand however if it is not something you can see without fully removing the engine block.
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Thursday, April 18th, 2013 AT 12:26 PM
Tiny
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Thrust bearing you cannot see when doing this repair.

There was no way of determine it till he saw the part in the pan. He never should have given you back the car that way.

Roy
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Thursday, April 18th, 2013 AT 3:14 PM

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