ABS/Trac off light

Tiny
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  • 2001 PONTIAC GRAND AM
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I have an ABS/Trac off light on and want to know how to decide what each side of the car is. Do you decide this by sitting in the drivers seat or standing in front of the car? Silly question but important to me right now to decide which wheel to work on first. Thanks.
Monday, January 15th, 2018 AT 11:43 AM

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Tiny
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The side is as viewed from in the driver's seat. You turn left toward the left side of the car.

What diagnostic fault code did you get?
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Monday, January 15th, 2018 AT 12:20 PM
Tiny
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The code reader is not showing any error codes. The ABS and the Trac off lights came two days ago. The service engine light also came on but amazingly no codes. How should I proceed?
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Monday, January 15th, 2018 AT 12:29 PM
Tiny
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Just to clarify, the code reader is not showing any codes either active or pending.
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Monday, January 15th, 2018 AT 12:31 PM
Tiny
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Next would be to connect a scanner so you can view live data. In this case, look at the four wheel speeds. I'd expect to see they look normal until you slow down, then one of the front sensors will drop to "0" too soon. These wheel speed sensors generate their signals magnetically. Just as with generators, you need a coil of wire, a magnet, and most importantly, movement between them. GM's front wheel speed sensors are built into the wheel bearing assemblies and they develop real wimpy signals to start with, then as speed slows down, the strength of those signals becomes weaker and weaker, to the point the computer can't read one of them, then it thinks that wheel has locked up. It activates the ABS system in response when that isn't really needed.

Where the problem gets worse is the very slight play that develops in all wheel bearings is enough to increase the air gap between the sensor and the tone ring, and that further decreases the signal strength. This is so common, it can occur to a new bearing assembly in as little as 15,000 miles. The dealers' scrap metal bins are full of these bearings. They will work just fine on a car without anti-lock brakes.
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Monday, January 15th, 2018 AT 4:22 PM
Tiny
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Thanks, I will try what you suggested and will also let you know if and when I get this repaired.
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Monday, January 15th, 2018 AT 4:28 PM
Tiny
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Good morning.

As far as the codes, your reader is only able to read the P codes or engine codes. You either need an upgraded code reader that will read ABS codes or go to a parts store to have them checked as they have readers that will read the ABS system.

Roy
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Wednesday, January 17th, 2018 AT 2:23 AM

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