Front bearing hub?

Tiny
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The vehicle listed above (XL model) when I turn either front wheel hub the other wheel hub spins but the u-bolt doesn't spin all the time it's really loose the one that comes off of the differential, is this normal? This one is the replacement differential. Now the original rear end is completely removed from the vehicle it's not connected to the vehicle when I do this. The one I had taken out of the vehicle, the original differential, when I'd spin either Hub the u-bolt would spin with it is this normal it's also a go both of them? I need to replace the right bearing hub as well.
Thursday, February 20th, 2020 AT 4:16 AM

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Tiny
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Good morning,

Can you post a video of what you see? What do you mean by the U bolt? This sounds normal to me here is a video to show you how to replace the front bearing hub.

https://youtu.be/ZgiPRG6jffc

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Thursday, February 20th, 2020 AT 4:41 AM
Tiny
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The u that connects the drive shaft to the rear differential.
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Thursday, February 20th, 2020 AT 1:22 PM
Tiny
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Okay, you mean the yoke. That makes sense.

You have what is called an open rear. When you turn one side, the yoke will not turn. The other wheel should turn the opposite way.

If you had a limited-slip differential, then when you tune one wheel, the yoke will turn.

Roy
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Thursday, February 20th, 2020 AT 1:28 PM
Tiny
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What size is the drive axle hub nut?
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

Should be a 34mm or 36mm deep socket. Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The local mechanic just quoted me $700 to replace one of teh above two items, saying the part is $450+. I look on line (autohaus, etc) and find it for $80.
I know my way around cars and tools well enough to do this myself I think. Am (should) I replacing both of these items. Mechanic said bearings, so I am leaning towards hub assembly, but will do both if warranted.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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So are you talking about the axles or the bearing?Also front or rear?Let me know.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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It is front.
I am unsure if he was refering to the axles or bearings, will get clarification when I p/u vehicle tomorrow
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
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Sounds good let me know what he say's is bad and we will go from there.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Is what is shot on the front of my Envoy. Difficult to replace?
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Looks like my previous omitted the words."Axle hub assembly"

I see a variety of price points from a cheap "Replacement" at around $60 to an AC Delco at $300. There clearly are some quality differences. Recommendation?
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The cheapest i saw one was for 117 for a duralast at auto zone there timken one was 200 which is a good brand but they have a timken for 160 and a acdelco one for 248 at www.rockauto.com plus i have a 5 percent off discount code for them.I have gotten a lot of part's from them there pretty price's on most of there stuff.I would go with timken.It's not a bad price at 160 and it's good quality if you decide to get it from rock auto let me know and i will give you the 5 percent discount code.Or if you find it cheaper somewhere else that's great too.It's not that hard to do they only charge 1.5hrs labor i posted the instruction's on how to replace it for you.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/416332_2004_gmc_envoy_front_wheel_hub_assembley_part1_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/416332_2004_gmc_envoy_front_wheel_hub_assembley_part2_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/416332_2004_gmc_envoy_front_wheel_hub_assembley_part3_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/416332_2004_gmc_envoy_front_wheel_hub_assembley_part4_1.jpg



https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/416332_2004_gmc_envoy_front_wheel_hub_assembley_part5_1.jpg



2004 GMC Truck Envoy 4WD L6-4.2L VIN S

Front Wheel Hub, Bearing, and Seal Replacement

Removal Procedure

1. Remove the tire and wheel center cap.

2. Remove the drive axle nut.
3. Raise and support the vehicle. Refer to Vehicle Lifting.
4. Remove the tire and wheel.
5. Remove the brake rotor.

6. Disengage the wheel drive shaft from the wheel hub and bearing. Place a brass drift against the outer end of the wheel drive shaft in order to protect the wheel drive shaft threads. Sharply strike the brass drift with the hammer. Do not attempt to remove the wheel drive shaft from the wheel hub and bearing at this time.

7. Remove the ABS sensor mounting bolt from the wheel hub and bearing.
8. Remove the ABS sensor from the wheel hub and bearing.

9. Remove the wheel hub and bearing to the steering knuckle mounting bolts.

10. Remove the wheel hub and bearing from the steering knuckle.
11. Remove the splash shield from the steering knuckle.

Installation Procedure

1. Install the splash shield to the steering knuckle. Align the splash shield to the steering knuckle threaded holes.
2. Install the wheel hub and bearing to the steering knuckle. Align the threaded holes.

3. Install the wheel hub and bearing to the steering knuckle mounting bolts. Tighten the wheel hub and bearing mounting bolts to 105 Nm (77 ft. lbs.).

4. Install the ABS sensor to the wheel hub and bearing.
5. Install the ABS sensor mounting bolt to the wheel hub and bearing. Tighten the ABS sensor to the wheel hub and bearing mounting bolt to 18 Nm (13 ft. lbs.).

6. Install the brake rotor.
7. Install the tire and wheel.
8. Lower the vehicle.
9. Install the drive axle nut. Tighten the drive axle nut to 140 Nm (103 ft. lbs.).
10. Install the tire and wheel center cap.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The only tool I am missing is a wrench or deep socket for the drive axle nut. Is that 35 or 36mm. I seem to be dealing with metric on an American auto?

Thank you. The above is a huge help
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Everything will be metric on your car I'm not sure what size your Axel nut is you want to get a deep socket though. See if you can rent a socket at the auto parts store if you can't then buy the two sizes and return the one you don't use. Let me know how it goes.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Job done. Thank you so much. Needed to buy a 36mm deep socket ($20), but enjoyed getting dirt and grease under my nails again.
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Thursday, July 16th, 2020 AT 7:49 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Glad to hear it your welcome that's what were here for to help people fix there car's.
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