Pressure in the radiator hoses

Tiny
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Hi,

I have the car listed above base model (non turbo).
I have a problem, the radiator hoses after getting to normal temperature gets hard you can feel that there is a pressure in them and a bit hard to squeeze the upper and lower one before that I had a temperature rise before the h by one line and I changed the coolant and do a flush using a quicker city radiator flash and distilled water and after that I fielded it up with 50/50 coolant and purged the air from the system and changed the thermostat and the radiator ca. The temperature is okay after doing all of this on the obd2 scanner it gets up to 96c Max and the fan works and get it to 84c. When on load the temperature rise on the obd2 scanner up to almost 97c no load it's okay on the dashboard the temperature gauge is fine and where it is always been with either load or not it's the same. No lose of coolant no smoke form the back no oil and coolant mix, only high pressure in the radiator hoses and you feel it hard, so what may the cause of high pressure in the radiator hoses? And I am a bit scared that due to the pressure the coolant hoses get lose or something. Also when I open the radiator cap when hot no sound of air coming out or anything and when I open the cap and let the car idle no bubbles and nothing only the water rise up and start to spill. One of my friends told me it might be the head gasket or the engine block I don't know.

I would appreciate any help on this and thank you in advance.
Thank you : )
Sunday, August 11th, 2019 AT 10:24 PM

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Tiny
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Hello,

The radiator hoses do have a little pressure on them. The thermostat stays closed until the coolant reaches a predetermined temperature and then opens. The water pump on the other hand is constantly spinning. This will pressurize the whole system a little until the thermostat opens, allowing the coolant to flow. This is done of course so your vehicle has a heater and a defroster. If your vehicle had a blown head gasket you would probably have exhaust gasses mingling with the coolant and would be able to tell with a tester kit explained in the link down below.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

There would also probably be coolant leaking into the combustion chamber and contaminating the engine oil with a cracked cylinder head or engine block. Check the engine oil and see if it looks like coffee with cream and sugar in it. If it doesn't, then this is probably not the case. Also, you would have sweet smelling white exhaust bellowing from the exhaust as the coolant was burned in the combustion chamber. Please go through the guide and get back to us with what you are able to find out.

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Sunday, August 11th, 2019 AT 10:42 PM
Tiny
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Thank you very much Alex for your reply. As I can tell the pressure is high after the thermostat opened because the obd2 scanner shows the temperature is about 84c and the thermostat is should be opened at 82c written on the thermostat and the lower and the upper radiator hoses almost the same temperature by feeling so this means the thermostat is open. The pressure is when the car is at running temperature the hoses gets hard and you could feel there is a a high pressure in the hoses. Regarding the head gasket I am not sure but I will give it a try for the tester kit, I am not sure because when I open the cap and let the car idle no bubbles come out only the coolant level starts to rise and spill over a little bit when the car is idling. Regarding the engine oil there is no mix I did check it, the oil is the same color, and also there is no smoke from the exhaust neither a smell. As I understand and correct me if I am wrong if the head gasket is blowing or have small pin hole this will only result in gases going into the radiator this is the only thing, and the cracked cylinder head or engine block will cause the coolant to go into the engine right? This means the head gasket will not leak coolant into the engine only when the cylinder head or the engine block will leak coolant into the engine right? If this right so I guess I am not sure maybe what is causing the high pressure is the head gasket. I will give the tester a run and see what I will come with. According to the information that I did mention now what do you think? Or is it normal to have the lower and upper radiator hoses hard

Thank you very much : )
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Sunday, August 11th, 2019 AT 11:11 PM
Tiny
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Hello,

Okay, you got everything right. If the thermostat is supposed to open at 82 degrees and you still have hard radiator hoses, indicating that the coolant isn't flowing and their temperature is 84 degrees, what would that tell you? The thermostat isn't opening. Here is a link for you to go to down below:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-thermostat

This could be a case of the thermostat being bad right out of the box. It wouldn't be the first or, unfortunately, the last time this has happened. Please go through this guide and get back to us with what you are able to find out.

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Monday, August 12th, 2019 AT 8:43 PM
Tiny
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Thank you very much Alex for keeping up with me. Regarding the thermostat I did read your message and went to test the thermostat.
What I did is this the car is overnight cold I did top up a little bit of the coolant in the tank less than 30ml. I started the car and let it warm up without moving the hoses get hard as usual. I will attach a picture of the hoses the ones with a rectangle are hard and hot after some time the one down with the arrow it's down where the thermostat is connected is hard, but not hot. I lit the car warm up to temperature up to 83c on the obd2 scanner and still the the houses with the rectangle hard and hot and the one down hard but not hot. I did move with the car for a test drive for 3 minutes and parked check the hoses the ones with the rectangle are still hard and hot the one down are hard and hot now. So I don't know but this means the thermostat did open right? And the coolant is flowing right? But still the houses are hard. Let's say that the thermostat is bad or something wouldn't I have a overheating issues? I don't at all after I changed the thermostat and did the flush and changed the coolant and changed the cap I don't have issues with overheating.

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Monday, August 12th, 2019 AT 9:46 PM
Tiny
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Hello,

Okay, let's start from the beginning. Is your vehicle overheating?

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Tuesday, August 13th, 2019 AT 1:52 AM
Tiny
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No, let's start what happened from the beginning.
First before a month ago I was traveling for almost a day when I arrived at my destination I was buying some food and the car is running and the AC was running, I noticed the car overheated before the H by one line, I moved and shutdown the AC as soon I moved I noticed the heat is going down until it went to normal. I thought because of the weather is hot and I was on the road for almost a day it did overheat. Then 3 days all good when I traveled back I noticed that when I am doing 90ml/h the car heats and when going 60 the temperature is normal so I did continue to go on 60 until I reached my destination. After that I started to search the problem and I found that it might be the coolant or the thermostat or the cap so I changed the coolant with a flush and changed the thermostat with OEM one and changed the cap with OEM one, after that the temperature is good no overheating nothing and all good. After that I started to notice that my hoses are hard both the upper and lower one. So I thought air is trapped in the system I bled the air more than 3 times and nothing the same the hoses are hard. I started to search the problem and found in the internet it might be the cap is faulty. So I bought another OEM cap and nothing, the same thing. I searched and searched and I found your website and I did the 6 ways for head gasket problems (without the cylinder leak test) and nothing all good. But still have the problem of hard hoses across all the system the upper and lower one and you can feel it hard like there is high pressure in the system. That's the hole story.

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Tuesday, August 13th, 2019 AT 2:11 AM
Tiny
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Hello again,

Well it sounds to me like you have done everything that is normally done in the maintenance of a cooling system, save replace the water pump and heater core, but neither of those are the issue. If your vehicle isn't overheating then this might be normal. The only other thing that I could think of was maybe they gave you the wrong pressure for the radiator cap. In the diagrams down below I have included the draining and filling instructions from the factory. You might also want to double check the concentration of the anti freeze. Please go through this guide and get back to us with whaou are able to find out.

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Alex
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Tuesday, August 13th, 2019 AT 3:26 PM
Tiny
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Hi

Sorry for the late reply, I was waiting for the tester to arrive. Regarding the points you mentioned, the car it's not overheating at all in city driving, traveling for long distance I don't know if it's going to overheat or not because I didn't travel but in city driving and highway no overheating at all. Regarding the cap I did check and it's the right specs as the old one exactly rated 1.1. Now for the test I didn't buy the one that you guys told me to do because it didn't have an international shipping on it. So I bought another one from eBay and this is the link for it:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F323505216857

It did arrive and I did the test, the results are, I did the test following the instructions for the first 10 mins the color was dark blue ( same color from of the test fluid ) even with revving the engine couple times, after 10 mins and exactly when I hit the 14 mins mark the fluid color changed to light blue, I don't know what this means, I did test the fluid with the exhaust and the color changed to yellow in less than a minute, so is this means I have a really really small leak or because the fluid was exposed to the air around the engine for long period it changed to light blue I am sure what you guys think about this? And what is the meaning of light blue color?
I will include some pictures and videos in the next reply.

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Tuesday, August 27th, 2019 AT 2:12 AM
Tiny
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The first video is at the beginning.
The second one at the 9 minutes.
The third one at the 14/15 minutes when the color changed.
And a clear pictures of the color change to bring blue.
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Tuesday, August 27th, 2019 AT 2:36 AM
Tiny
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Hello,

I'm not sure what it means when it turns blue, but given the fact that it didn't turn yellow and that your vehicle's age isn't that old, you don't have a blown head gasket or cracked cylinder head or block. So you can rule those out. If your vehicle isn't overheating, then this is probably normal behavior for your vehicle.

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Alex
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Wednesday, August 28th, 2019 AT 10:36 PM

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