Poor performance

Tiny
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Hello, I do not see any codes when I check. Under normal driving conditions it performs well enough. But sometimes when I am passing on the highway the engine kicks in then right back out again and it feels as though sluggish. If I come to a rolling stop then proceed and give it lots of gas it will feel sluggish. Winter time now, I had spun the tires in the snow a couple of times. When I do the engine revs up tires spin I let off and tires stop spinning but engine keeps revving as though transmission is slipping. I have thought of replacing the vehicle speed sensor but seeking advice on maybe something else wrong. I had just bought this truck over the summer I do not know all that was done to it. I only know a cold air intake was added as well as a throttle body spacer and was told a chip was put in. I do not know if the guy tuned it himself afterward. Is it possible the previous owner over tuned the shift pattern on the transmission. As I mentioned it does run good under normal driving conditions. I only notice these things when I step on the gas moderately hard.
Monday, December 10th, 2018 AT 10:30 AM

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Tiny
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This can be caused by a bad MAF sensor which will not set a code. I would swap the sensor out to see what happens. Here is a guide and the location for your truck below:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-mass-air-flow-sensor-maf

This guide can help as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-has-low-power-output

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what you find.

Cheers, Ken
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Tuesday, December 11th, 2018 AT 12:15 PM
Tiny
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Okay, thank you Ken. I will go pick one up today. I kind of suspected that might be it. Something I had done with my air filter was sprayed to much oil on it when I probably should not have used it at all. I likely baked oil on that sensor. Thanks
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Thursday, December 13th, 2018 AT 8:17 AM
Tiny
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Hi Ken. Well, changed my MAF sensor. It didn't make a difference. A couple of months ago I had changed my pedal position sensor because I was having like a stall condition. I'm wondering now. Is there a right way and a wrong way of installing this sensor. It was the sensor only without the pedal that I installed.
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Friday, December 14th, 2018 AT 8:16 AM
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If the sensor had a problem it would trigger a code. I am wondering if the fuel pump is going out. Let check the fuel pressure to see. Here is a guide to help us get started:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

Pressure should be 46- 62 psi.

This guide can help as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-has-low-power-output

Please run down these guides and report back.

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Friday, December 14th, 2018 AT 10:29 AM
Tiny
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I do not think it is the fuel pump as everything is good under normal driving condition and would not cause it to keep revving after spinning tires. What I am thinking now is maybe the Idle Air Control Valve may be sticking. I only have this problem if I spin tires, the engine keeps revving a couple of seconds after letting off accelerator. Or if passing a vehicle engine will kick into high then back out right away and feel sluggish. If I am at a complete stop and I accelerate it goes like a charm. If I come to a rolling stop and then accelerate it doesn't kick in and feels sluggish. Other times while on the highway if I step on it. It just falls flat sometimes. I am unsure about this IAC as well because it idles good, runs good. Only when I step on it, and if I spin the tires as though something is sticking preventing the vehicle to return to its normal running operation.
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Friday, December 14th, 2018 AT 11:07 AM
Tiny
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The truck does not have an IAC, but a dirty throttle bore can cause the truck to go into limp mode. Run down this guide let me know.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/throttle-actuator-service

Cheers, Ken

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Friday, December 14th, 2018 AT 11:09 AM
Tiny
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I have cleaned the throttle body already in and around the throttle plate. Do I have to take the throttle body right off and clean it? I do not think it is in limp mode either because well. I don't think it would run as good as it does. Other than what is going on.
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Friday, December 14th, 2018 AT 11:36 AM
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Good afternoon,

Something caught my eye on one of your responses.

Do you have a K/N air filter in the system? You mentioned you sprayed oil on the filter?

Roy
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Friday, December 14th, 2018 AT 12:32 PM
Tiny
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It is a S&B air filter. I did spray K&N oil on it. But since had cleaned it again to get the oil out. It didn't make a difference. I made a call yesterday. I decided to take the guess work out and made an appointment at my local dealership.
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 6:20 AM
Tiny
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Just for your information, those air filters that use oil are no good at all for computer controlled systems. They contaminate the sensors with the oil and all kinds of thing result from the oil.

If you have a car under warranty and you have an air filter like this, the warranty is null and void and the dealer will reject working on the car at all. That is how strong they feel about these types of air filters.

Keep us updated with your results.

Roy
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 7:13 AM
Tiny
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I had just found out there are two types of filters by this manufacturer. Dry and one that uses oil. I'm thinking now that I may have a dry filter and used oil on it and ruined my filter. I have contacted S and B filters to find out whether it it is a dry one or uses oil. Thanks for the info on that. I will be replacing it with a dry one. If I can get it.
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 7:30 AM
Tiny
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I would just get a good quality filter such as AC delco and go with that.

Roy
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 7:36 AM
Tiny
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I have thought of that. It would make it a lot easier replacing my filter when needed. But, I have no wrecking yards close by. I would need some original parts to switch it back. Maybe I will go for a ride today and go check on someone I know. He may have a truck there that I can get what I would need. Thanks. I will do that.
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 7:49 AM
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You are welcome.

Always glad to help.
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 8:00 AM
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Hello, well I had switched everything back to original. Box, tube and filter. Only now that I did that I am getting a real hesitation like it wants to quit then slowly regains if I were to step on it and try and spin my tires in the snow. I took it to the dealership yesterday and they couldn't find anything wrong. Reason being they were locked out unable to retrieve anything because my computer was altered. Performance chip. The person I had purchased the truck from did the programming and I have no idea of the type of programmer he used. But I am thinking that because there was a cold air intake on there with a big filter that the programming calls for that amount of air now and is not getting enough air through the original filter and tube. I had just ordered a replacement filter for this cold air intake. This one is a dry filter. But I am still wondering of any other possibilities.
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Thursday, December 20th, 2018 AT 11:10 AM
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Okay, the next step is to have the chip removed and get it back to stock.

Then you can access the PCM and see what the readings are for all the sensors.

Roy
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Thursday, December 20th, 2018 AT 12:19 PM
Tiny
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Something I want to ask. When I purchased this vehicle I had problems with my accelerator pedal position sensor. I had changed the sensor only. Without the pedal. Is there room for adjustment on this sensor? If so how can I adjust it?
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Saturday, December 22nd, 2018 AT 6:13 AM
Tiny
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No, there is no adjustment.

What was the code that was set when you had this issue?

There is also the throttle body as well.

Roy
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Saturday, December 22nd, 2018 AT 6:16 AM
Tiny
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I don't remember the code when I replaced the sensor. I just know that it solved the problem at the time. Before I replaced this sensor at times I was getting no throttle response when trying to accelerate from a stop. Like it was stalling almost. So I replaced it and it solved that issue. I don't have any codes right now. But I am thinking this must be off by half a degree or something. I don't know if I still have the old one. If I did I would maybe put it back in and wait until code is set. But if there is a procedure on setting this it would likely be worse than it was originally. Just looking to know. Can this sensor be adjusted?
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Saturday, December 22nd, 2018 AT 6:36 AM
Tiny
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As I stated in my last response, no. It is not adjustable. It is a plug and play sensor.

Roy
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Saturday, December 22nd, 2018 AT 6:39 AM

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