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1995 Pontiac Grand Prix car wont start

Tiny
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Engine Performance problem
1995 Pontiac Grand Prix 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 128K miles

we drove the car to the store and now it wont start.

we checked battery connections and it is fully charged tried to jump and it wouldnt work cleaned connectors on starter starter spins freely and cylinoids do not click when I arched across starter with screwdriver car would try to start and starter turned freely pep boys say it doesnt have a starter relay but I am not sure they know what they are talking about does it have one? Does anyone know what might b the problem?
PLEASE HELP
i would have donated money but I am out of work and dont have any (sorry)
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 11:58 AM

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Tiny
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What about your theft system? Did you try cranking in neutral? As far as the theft system, if there is a pellet in the key, you might wipe it off, try a different key. The purple wire at the starter solenoid should be hot with the key in the crank position. It is wired through the theft relay. This type theft system may also disable the injectors, if there is a problem with the theft system, even if you crank it, it still won't start.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 12:13 PM
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I only have one key :( is there a way to find out if it is any good?
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 12:35 PM
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Right now, I can't be sure it is the theft system? Is there a pellet in the key, is theft lite flashing when you try to start?
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 12:59 PM
Tiny
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Yes there is a pellet in the key. No the theft (security) light does not flash and the starter turns over with the key in the "on" position when I arch across the starter
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 1:20 PM
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Is the theft lite on? If the theft module is preventing the vehicle from starting, the theft lite should come on. Does it ever lite up? Check ecm B and ecm ign fuse for voltage, use a testlite. The B fuse circuit is hot all the time, the ign fuse circuit goes hot when you turn on the key. The theft deterrent relay should be under the right side dash, sorry I don't have a picture. Are there any codes?
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 2:13 PM
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How do find a code? There is no "theft" light but there is a "security" light that comes on and flashes when I try to start the car and when the key is in the on position
what/where is ecm B and ecm ign fuses at?
I found the fuse for the security light and it is ok it stopped flashing when I pulled the fuse out and started flashing again when I put it back in so that part seems ok
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 2:33 PM
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Both fuses are in the underhood electrical center.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2009 AT 3:57 PM

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