Code P0401

Tiny
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  • 1998 FORD TAURUS
  • 3.0L
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  • 198,000 MILES
Replaced DPFE, EGR Solenoid and EGR valve. Also cleaned throttle body intake. Replaced fuel filter and used a fuel injector cleaner with full tank of gas. Cleaned gunk out of channel from EGR intake manifold on manifold. None of that resolved the issue!

Also have non powertrain codes: P1300 - Boost Calibration Fault, and P1100 - MAF circuit intermittent fault.

Replaced MAF sensor, but no luck.

Any help would be most appreciated. DOHC 3.0L, AX4N Transmission the better of the two.

Much thanks.
Tuesday, April 12th, 2022 AT 8:01 PM

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Tiny
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This sounds like you have a clogged catalytic converter which will cause these codes. To be sure, let's test the catalytic converter here is a guide to help and I have included the replacement instructions in the diagrams below for your car and a generic guide as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-catalytic-converter

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/catalytic-converter-replacement

Check out the diagrams (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem.
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Wednesday, April 13th, 2022 AT 5:11 PM
Tiny
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Ken, thanks so much for the reply. I had that thought in my mind given the mileage. A shop was supposed to do the test but didn’t. I’m wondering given no loss of power and no odd smell of sulfur, if it could be a clogged EGR tube and/or the vacuum lines to the recently replaced DPFE. Can the tube really be cleaned well or are you better off replacing? I have the new vacuum lines but haven’t installed them. One mechanic wrote that he always replaces those lines on Fords when he replaces the DPFE. The EGR image below doesn’t seem to be for my car, the DOHC 3.0L, 98 Taurus. Perhaps it’s a diagram of the 12 valve Vulcan 3.0L? On my car, the DPFE is on the right side behind and underneath the intake manifold, when standing in front of the car, looking at the engine, and the solenoid is to the left of the engine, a good distance apart... Almost 2 feet.

Also, about 18 months ago, I had a downstream O2 sensor fail. I replaced it with a Bosch... All that was available on a Saturday. I recently replaced both as they should be done in pairs with Densos, which I believe are better, and OEM. But, again, the shop was to test the catalytic converters, and didn’t. Maybe they didn’t think it was necessary. It wasn’t a quality place with knowledgeable ppl, they are having a hard time getting employees.

Curious about your thoughts given the additional information? A Walker exhaust section with the three cats is $425.00 and they won’t ship to NY, and the car is 24 years old, so I am hoping it’s something less expensive, as if do catalytic converters probably makes sense to do entire exhaust as if parts of catalytic converters broken, pieces could be in mufflers, so I now understand.

Much thanks!
Dennis
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Thursday, April 14th, 2022 AT 11:18 AM
Tiny
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Oh, the one system I can’t get to run when checking diagnostics is the catalyst systems. Do you know the real drive pattern for my car? All I get are many contradictory instructions online. Thanks again!
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Thursday, April 14th, 2022 AT 11:27 AM
Tiny
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Freeze Frame Data.
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Thursday, April 14th, 2022 AT 11:33 AM
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The freeze frame data doesn't really show much wrong, but I know plugged cats will burn up the DPFE sensor. Also, all tubes and passages must be clean for the system to work correctly. You might want to try removing the system and looking into each cat to see if the catalyst is burnt up. Please let me know, it would be a fun weekend project.
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Friday, April 15th, 2022 AT 2:11 PM
Tiny
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Ken, many thanks for the reply! This is driving me nuts.

Without a lift, working on the exhaust/cats isn’t an option for me. Though most all EGR components were replaced, including the DPFE, as everyone says that’s usually the cause, it wasn’t melted or anything, indicating a cat issue. I don’t even think the DPFE was bad. So, the clogged manifold channel and ports behind the throttle body and EGR valve were cleaned, as it was very obviously necessary. There was a good deal of gunk in there. Only one guy recommended it. We also cleaned the throttle body itself and I’ve used a few tanks of gas with fuel system cleaner. I ran the drive patterns as recommended but can’t get the catalyst monitor to cycle.

My thought on the one trouble code re: EGR flow restriction, is that the EGR tube is likely clogged and given that attention is a more logical next step, along with replacing the two high temp silicone rubber tubes from said metal EGR tube to the DPFE. That’s $85 vs. $500-$1,500 for new cats and exhaust. The car has plenty of power and there is no odd sulfur smell, though the mileage is near where one would need cats, it’s not a common problem on the Taurus DOHC motor, probably because there are three and (mostly) dual stainless-steel exhaust, not true dual pipes, though.

I would think doing a simple temperature test before and after each car would tell you if bad?

I can’t determine what is causing P1300 - Boost Calibration Fault, or P1100 - MAF intermittent fault or something to that effect. Had both downstream O2 sensors replaced, given the mileage and they stripped one when removing... And had to add a metal ring of some type to rethread? Not sure the effect. Have live data and other reports, will attach. Both sensors getting voltage.

Have some finicky gas caps, keep changing to get rid of an EVAP code (large leak). Having a very hard time getting the catalyst I/M Monitor to cycle, this is the main issue along with EGR flow error code. The serpentine belt needs to be tightened a wee bit but has proper voltage and a fairly new heavy duty (police battery) and a relatively new alternator were installed. I’m thinking if tighten belt, maybe catalyst I/M will cycle?

If you know the exact drive pattern for my specific vehicle, that would be a big help. Can cruise control be used during drive cycle? I have read contradictory statements on that, when driving to check diagnostics and for smog test?

Much thanks!
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Friday, April 15th, 2022 AT 7:42 PM
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Yes, the cat temperature test will help, it shows how in the guide link I sent in the last post, also if the EGR tube is plugged it will cause the problem. You can try removing the EGR and start the engine, it will have a large vacuum leak but while it is running you should be able to hear the exhaust leak to the EGR port. The comp won't cycle with a code present.
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Monday, April 18th, 2022 AT 10:56 AM
Tiny
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Ken, thanks for the reply.

Forgetting about the EGR flow issue, can you instead help with these two questions, please:

Can you use cruise control during the drive pattern?

What can be done to get the catalyst I/M to cycle during drive pattern?

Much thanks!
Dennis
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Monday, April 18th, 2022 AT 1:44 PM
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We try to keep the same subject matter per post. Please post your new question here, you must be logged in.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

Cheers, Ken
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Monday, April 18th, 2022 AT 5:05 PM

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