Got an oil change, some hours later my engine light and oil pressure light turned on?

Tiny
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Got an oil change, some hours later my engine light and oil pressure light comes on, the vehicle starts stalling in the middle of the road. I barely make it to an AutoZone where we check and there’s no oil on the dipstick and I'm leaking oil underneath. Something clearly went wrong with the oil change so I filed a claim with my insurance, but what do I do now? Do I call the oil change place? Where do I get my car towed to, does my insurance tell me that?
Monday, September 18th, 2023 AT 5:34 PM

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Tiny
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Of course you would need to contact the place that did the work. One of the things included in the price you paid for the service is the assurance they will correct any mistake on their part. This is not an issue for your auto insurance company. That policy has nothing to do with breakdowns or maintenance.

Two things can commonly happen to cause this. One is no one put the Oil cap back on. This is a bigger problem with import engines as things that are supposed to fling oil around pass right under the oil cap. You'll find oil dripping from the bottom on the hood.

A second problem that catches every mechanic at some point in his career is "double-gasketing" the oil filter. That's when the old rubber seal comes off the filter and sticks to the engine, then the new filter with its seal is screwed on over it. The filter's base is formed to create a ridge that holds the seal in place, but that doesn't work when a second seal gets caught in there. That old, second seal blows out allowing oil to be pumped out onto the ground. For this failure, you'll see a lot of oil on the ground, but usually not under the bottom of the hood. This also usually occurs right away, or within walking distance of the shop. Part of the problem is due to having multiple people work on the vehicle to get the job done faster. Each person may incorrectly assume the other one did part of the procedure. Sometimes "fast" is not the best way to go.

Some drivers will see the smoke from under hood or see the trail of oil behind the vehicle, but for the rest of us, we have to see the warning lights on the dash. If you stop the engine immediately, as we must always do when the "Oil" light turns on, there's a very good chance no damage occurred to the engine. The shop will typically pay for the tow truck to get you back to their shop, the cleanup, correcting their mistake, and often a coupon toward another oil change as their way of apologizing for the mistake.

It's when drivers keep on driving with the warning lights on that this can become a bigger issue. Once you know a problem has developed, continuing to drive makes the resulting damage your fault. That can be rather difficult to get the shop to pay for as they had no control over your actions. Fortunately, that doesn't happen too often as most people stop the engine right away.

Please keep me up to date on how the shop handles this.
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Monday, September 18th, 2023 AT 5:57 PM
Tiny
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Thank you so much for your quick reply. I will definitely call them in the morning and see how they want to go from here. How would you suggest I word/inform them of this issue? I know it was a mistake and I don’t want to sound rude.
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Monday, September 18th, 2023 AT 6:03 PM
Tiny
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The proper thing would have been to call them right away, because the longer you wait, the more they could legitimately assume someone else did something in the meantime to cause the problem. Be sure to contact them as soon as possible so this doesn't become an issue. People have been known to pull stunts like this to force the shop to pay for pre-existing engine conditions they couldn't know about.

They are going to appreciate you not being rude or angry, as most customer would be. I know how things like this can happen to the best of people. That's why they deserve the chance to correct their mistake. First, tell them what happened and where it happened. If there's any doubt on their part, they can see the oil on the ground where this took place. Someone from the shop, either the owner or a manager, will usually be the person you're speaking with. Let them decide how to handle this. It might simply involve an employee coming to the vehicle first to see what happened. If the Oil cap was left off, this can be a simple matter of refilling the oil, replacing the cap, then having you bring the vehicle in at your convenience to let them clean up the mess. They might approach this the same way if the filter had a double gasket, but it can be impossible to crawl underneath the see or fix that without being on a hoist. In that case they may call a tow truck.

Regardless how this is handled, there should be a repair order written or some means of documenting the need for the follow-up service. If any serious engine damage occurred already, you'll hear knocking or banging noises from the engine. The shop will need to pay for that repair. It's more common that no serious damage occurred, in which case there's no need for further action beyond cleaning the mess. It's when damage has occurred that no one has a way of knowing right now that we worry about. That will usually show up within a day or two, but it can take longer. The longer any hidden damage takes to show up, the harder it becomes to prove it was caused by the oil change.

The best thing you have going in your favor if that happens is the written documentation, meaning the repair order or the receipt they give you spelling out the cleanup service they performed. I worked for a very nice family-owned Chrysler dealership in the '90s. Everything we did to a vehicle got documented. Chrysler was well-known for taking care of things long after the car was out of warranty. As long as an intermittent problem was documented during the warranty period, Chrysler would take care of it even if it took years to become a permanently occurring problem that could be diagnosed. Without the written repair order spelling out the problem, you're on your own as it would be considered a normal breakdown due to age or mileage.

If the shop doesn't write up a new repair order, ask them to give you a short written note with a manager's signature spelling out what happened. You can even type that up yourself to protect you. This doesn't have to be fancy or long. It is just a means of proving the incident occurred in case follow-up repairs are needed.
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Monday, September 18th, 2023 AT 6:33 PM

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