Not charging replaced alternator?

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JASON WHITE_1
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I have replaced alt 3x now still nothing. Have bypassed ECM with external voltage regulator and new alt. Changed and cleaned cables. Still no charge. I get batt. Voltage at every connection but still no charge.
Sep 20, 2026 at 12:06 PM
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Might be the cable between the alternator and the batery id check it ay the alternator with the car running should read anywhere between ideally 13.4 & 14.6 Less ? Bad alt ..more? bad alt ...you can also check the continuity and resistance in the same cable disconnected between the alternator and the positive batery clamp the acually could be a break in the cable or extream corrosion somwhere along the way..good luck
Sep 20, 2026 at 12:41 PM
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Oh and a side note this charging issue could easily be due to the ecu not turning it on At the alternator its not good to bypass the ecu gotta keep it as designed if the voltage isn't being delivered properly it would be best to find and repair the problem properly always going in the direction of restoring it back to the original configuration on hondas its usually on a switched line thats governed by ralays and fuzes to protect it just in case theres a problem along thè path.. if you go around those you could easily ruin the ecu .. just food for thought hope this helps good luck
Sep 20, 2026 at 12:58 PM
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I have changed the cables and still nothing. Like I stated I get batt. Voltage at all connections but not charging. I've changed 3 alts Now.
Sep 20, 2026 at 12:59 PM
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Correction" in my last comment I said hondas by mistake.. I meant dodges ...especially
Sep 20, 2026 at 1:12 PM
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On that vehicle the charging sytem is turned on and of by the ecu /ecm
So maybe try checking the (ASD relay and fuze ) first and formost then the field control wire at the back of the altenator then at the ecu/ecm it might be damaged dis connected corroded and so on .. its worth checking there next ...good luck
Sep 20, 2026 at 1:41 PM
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JASON WHITE_1
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I bypassed ECM with external voltage regulator.
Sep 21, 2026 at 4:15 PM
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Hi guys. Please allow me to add a few comments of value. Chrysler was the first manufacturer to use an electronic voltage regulator in 1970 models, and it can be a dandy part to run other alternators. One problem here is the Engine Computer monitors current flow through the field winding and its internal voltage regulator circuitry. When the internal regulator is bypassed, the computer sees 0 field current. It will set a fault code for "field not switching properly", and since low system voltage could adversely affect emissions, that code turns on the Check Engine light. That in itself doesn't cause a problem. The concern now is if some other, totally unrelated problem develops and sets a different fault code, the Check Engine light is already on, so you'll never know that new problem has developed. That new one could be a very minor one that turns into an expensive repair if it is unwittingly ignored.

If you want to keep the external regulator, I would connect a resistor between the switched 12-volt feed, to the terminal at the computer where the wire went to the alternator. Field windings are very close to 4 ohms, so use something close to a 4 ohm to 6 or 8 ohm resistor. This will have to be at least a 20 watt resistor. Those are ceramic, usually about 1/2" square by a good inch to an inch and a half long. They were commonly used on older tvs with picture tubes.

As for testing the charging system, let me start with the older Chrysler systems from the 1970s, the era your regulator came from. There's two wires connecting the regulator and alternator. The dark blue, along with all the other dark blue wires under the hood, has 12 volts on it when the ignition switch is turned on. That supplies the field current for the alternator, it powers the regulator circuitry, and it is the wire the regulator senses system voltage on. The regulator needs a reference when it measures system voltage. That "reference" is a fancy way of saying it compares it to ground. In this case, that is the regulator's metal housing. It has to be bolted to a paint and rust-free point on the engine or body sheet metal.

After current flows through the alternator's field coil, it leaves on the green wire and goes to and through the regulator's circuitry, to ground, so again, you need that good ground on the regulator. The regulator changes its internal resistance according to changes in system voltage, to adjust how much current flows through the alternator's field coil. Adjusting field current adjusts the strength of the electromagnetic field, thereby adjusting how much voltage is developed in the stationary "stator" coils. That adjusts how much current is developed, which is always just as much as is necessary to meet the demands of the entire electrical system, and to recharge the battery.

To test a system that appears to be dead, watch the brightness of the headlights, or place a voltmeter across the battery terminals, then ground the green wire. Doing so will bypass the voltage regulator and run the alternator wide open. Do not raise engine speed during this test. All generators are relatively inefficient at lower speeds. That is what can save you from destroying multiple computers and burning out any bulbs that are turned on. The battery is also helping to hold system voltage to a safe level, so never, ever disconnect it with the engine running. A good alternator that is full-fielded, with raised engine speed, can easily develop over 30 volts. With the battery connected, it helps hold that down to around 18 volts.

During this "full-field" test, expect to see battery voltage rise to around 15 to as much as 18 volts. Do that just long enough to get the reading. If you see that rise in voltage, the alternator is working although it can still have a problem with one failed diode of the six. That's a story for later. If you do not see a change in voltage, check to see if there's 12 volts on the dark blue wire.

For your newer model, testing is done exactly the same way, but there's a new wrinkle you'll have to contend with. That is, . . . the two wires, (dark blue and green on the older systems), go through a black, plastic block bolted to the back of the alternator, then pop out as the two metal tabs bolted to the small terminals on the alternator. There's no easy way to know which tab goes to which wire. If you guess, and you guess wrong, and ground the 12-volt feed wire, you'll blow the fuse feeding the automatic shutdown, (ASD) relay. That relay also feeds 12 volts to the injectors and ignition coil(s), so the engine will stall.

There are ways to figure out which terminal to ground to full-field the system. When the charging system is working, one terminal will have full system voltage, the other will have considerably less, typically 4 to 11 volts. That's the one, with less voltage, to ground. The lower that voltage is, the harder the regulator is driving the alternator.

The problem is when the system is not working, and you find exactly the same voltage on both field terminals. That happens when there is no field current flow, typically due to a break in the control wire going to the voltage regulator. That break can be caused by a defective regulator circuit inside the Engine Computer, but it's much more common to find corroded terminals in the connector in the middle of that harness where it goes from engine to body. You can't use a voltmeter to determine which wire to ground. They operate without drawing current from the circuit, so there's no "voltage drop" across the field. You'll see the same voltage at both points.

Some people will figure out that an old-fashioned incandescent bulb test light DOES draw current to do its thing, so it will cause a small voltage drop to occur, then the voltage on the control wire will be lower. The problem is you have to physically remove the test light's probe from one terminal to move it to the other one. You'll never see on which terminal the light is brighter.

The secret is to use both the test light and the digital voltmeter at the same time. On one terminal the light will be full brightness and the meter will read full system voltage. On the other terminal the test light will still appear to be full brightness, but the voltage will be lower, if only by a few tenths of a volt.

Now that you know which terminal to ground, do the full-field test and see what happens to battery / system voltage. If it doesn't go up a lot, measure instead right on the fat, bolted-on alternator output wire. If voltage rises there, there has to be a break in the wire going back to the battery. On vehicles as new as yours, there is usually a large fuse bolted into the under-hood fuse box that is just for this circuit. It could have been blown by your original alternator if it had two shorted diodes. Older models used fuse link wires. Those are short sections of special wire spliced in that are of a smaller diameter, making them the weak link in the chain. The insulation is designed to not melt or burn. This one will be very close to the battery. You test them by tugging gently on them. If one is burned open, it will act like a rubber band. If it's good, it will act like a wire.

The important point is you can't just check if there's voltage on the three alternator wires. You have to look at the exact voltages and compare them to determine what is or isn't working. If I've left you more confused than before, measure those voltages as precisely as you can, with the engine running, then post them in your next reply. MECHTRIX will help you figure out where to go next. I'll be sitting on the side waiting to learn the solution.

By the way, for your next trivia contest, Chrysler was the first manufacturer to develop the "AC generator" for their 1960 models, and they copyrighted the term, "alternator". GM didn't have their version until 1964.
Sep 21, 2026 at 5:32 PM
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Hay this is fun They acually had them way earlier than that like way before ww2 evan then used them more and more became more practical over time till the first real prodution for atomotive use was in Yep 1960 valiant i had one the wagon yep the old slant 6 great car. ...thanks caradiidoc good lookin out you just about covered all the bases ..so what's changed while I was gone your saying you changed the regulator to a external type yeah thats ok but now you might have a little more work to do to get it to wake up i. Jist hoping the altirnotor doesnt over due it ..becuase most altornators that are claimed to be controlled by the ecm definately are but only by grounding or energizing it to wake it up and then it regulated and rectified both inside the altirnotor .. but on yours they claim to be acually regulating it as caradiodoc explained he pretty much covered it if you follow that you should be good to go
Sep 25, 2026 at 2:23 PM
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And keep in mind this is an
asumption that the ecm /ecu wasn't funtioning properly before it was acually determined ..thats my concern none the less thats why I never recomend bypassing the ecm in my experience its amost always better to figure it out first always trying to stick with the stock factory configuration whenever possible ..but this might be the exception to the rule yeah id say measure all of it now that youve come this far and youl definately get there for what its worth
Sep 25, 2026 at 2:38 PM
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As for the acual altornator So the green wire is energized suposed to show 12v (key on ) its a switched circuit from the ignition the altornaotor its electro magnetic of coarse to amp up the output ..and the way it turns on .. its turned on by the ground wire ..formally done by the ecu grounding it internally so its pretty sinple in that regard if its brand new and its all hooked up and the 2 wires jobs are met green 12v and its grounded thruogh the regulator then youl see output to you batery ...as for the rectification thats done inside the altornator ..
Sep 25, 2026 at 5:06 PM
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Correction green and orange is the exciter wire I gets 12v from the keyed ignition switch ..and the ground is acually dark green forgot to mention that good luck
Sep 25, 2026 at 5:27 PM
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Also i had meantiined early on that you should check the asd relay its responsible for providing the energized fiel with constant power thats why i mention it just wondering was that checked ..comonly fails on older vehicles so id che k there for sure if you can get any output from the alternator ...good luck hope this helps
Sep 25, 2026 at 5:38 PM
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Hi MECHTRIX. The ASD relay can be ignored. If it fails, the engine won't run because there won't be 12 volts supplied to the injectors and ignition coils, which are on the same circuit.

What JASON WHITE_1 needs to do is list the three voltages with the engine running. The two smaller tabs bolted to the back of the alternator, and the fat, bolted-on output wire, also on the back of the alternator. We can figure out where to go next with those numbers.
Sep 25, 2026 at 8:41 PM
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Yes no need to check the asd relay itself its fine if the car runs but check the line coming from the asd to the alternator for sure dont ignore it that would be a mistake im sure its still fine make sure theres 12 volts to the green and orange wire with the key on thats it ..as far as the asd circuit goes ..but I just need to ask did you check the grounding funtion of the ecu ? And did you cut anything during the bypass ? Im dying to know thanks
Sep 25, 2026 at 10:39 PM
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