No crank, no start, no lights on dash?

Tiny
BURAD
  • MEMBER
  • 1989 FORD F-250
  • 7.3L
  • V8
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 147,000 MILES
I was having difficulty with starts in my truck listed above Diesel IDI, and realized my batteries were well past due for replacement. I got new batteries and once I did, everything started up like a champ! However, a few hours later, I started it up, no problem, and a few minutes later, it died. I tried to restart but got no crank. Then I realized that I had no lights on the dash.

Assuming this was an ignition switch issue, as that is a weak spot on these trucks, I replaced it. But still, to no avail, no crank, no start, no dash lights. But I do have head, brake and dome lights. I have also tested all fuses, with a continuity check and all tested ok. Upon researching the starter circuit, I found that my starter solenoid could be bypassed to turn the motor, but no voltage coming from the ignition. And when providing 12v to solenoid, turned over just fine, only no start.

My main concern at this point is no dash lights. With the assumption that the new switch is good, I confirmed that the placement of the switch allowed full key rotation and placement (i.E, acc, lock, on, start) but still no dash lights or crank.

My next validation would be the Clutch Safety switch (Manual Transmission) but would that be for not if there are still no dash lights with ignition in on position?

I'm stumped and look forward to any or next troubleshooting steps.

Thanks!
Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 AT 11:44 AM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
  • MECHANIC
  • 109,885 POSTS
Hi,

There is a fusible link that may have failed. The fusible link powers the starter when the starter relay closes and powers the ignition switch. I attached the starter circuit below. Do me a favor, start at the clutch safety switch.

Disconnect the switch. There should be a two-pin connector. With the key in the start position, you should have battery voltage to one of the two connectors. Check that for me. If there is power, the fusible link isn't the issue. If there is no power, we need to work backward.

Let me know what you find.

Joe

See pics below. Note: I cut the schematic in two so that you could read it. I did overlap the two so you can follow from one to the next.
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Wednesday, July 3rd, 2024 AT 8:38 PM

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