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Clutch pedal went to the floor then popped up again

Tiny
DANIEL JOSEPH SWANSON
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  • 2005 FORD MUSTANG
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • MANUAL
  • 107,600 MILES
This is the need for a forth clutch in five years. My clutch pedal just went to the floorboards. Then popped up again. Car will not go into gear and shot forward when I tried to start it. Originally my factory clutch went out and I had it replaced with a competition clutch. Flywheel and throw out bearing. It did not last and I had another dealership put in a factory one again a year later. The day I got it out of the shop it made all kinds of horrible noises and the dealership refused to make it right. I took it home and had to bring it back six months later because it was definitely going bad. So much for two years parts and labor warranty through Ford. Which it is still under but they said they would me we take it in again. Two months later I had the pedal go down to the floorboards like now. Then it was the hose clip fell off that goes to the clutch and the fluid reservoir. It drove with it almost out of fluid I believe. I managed to be a new hose and refill the fluid and pump like mad to get the pedal to work again. Yet the clutch grinds and whirs and rattles until now when it let go. I cannot afford a new clutch and know this dealership will never honor the two year parts and labor warranty. Or take responsibility for the hose failure. I live in Louisville Kentucky. I am at a total loss right now. It does still have fluid and it is to dark to see anything under the car right now.
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Wednesday, April 18th, 2018 AT 9:57 PM

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Tiny
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Good morning.

You will need to bleed the clutch to get the pedal back.

Procedure below. You should also find the leak and repair it. If it is the slave cylinder, that is when the transmission has to come out to access the slave cylinder.

Roy

Material

1. Make sure all hydraulic lines are correctly seated. Make sure all bleed screws are tightened to specification.
Tighten to 8 Nm (71 inch lbs.).

2. Make sure the clutch pedal is in the most upward position.
3. Check the fluid level of the brake/clutch reservoir. Fill the reservoir with the specified fluid to the MAX mark.
4. Using a suitable bleeder kit and a vacuum pump, install the rubber stopper in the reservoir opening. Make sure the rubber stopper has a tight fit.
Alternate method: use a 50 mm (1.96 inch) rubber stopper with an 8 mm (0.31 inch) pipe inserted through the rubber stopper.

5. Holding the rubber stopper in place, operate the vacuum pump to 15-20 inches of vacuum. Hold the vacuum for 1 minute, then quickly relieve the vacuum. Remove the special tools.
6. Check the fluid level of the reservoir. Fill the reservoir with the specified fluid to the MAX mark. Install the reservoir cap.
7. Depress and release the clutch pedal 10 to 12 times or until clutch pedal effort is consistent and positive at top of clutch pedal travel.
8. Repeat Steps 4, 5 and 6 two additional times or until clutch pedal effort is consistent and positive at top of clutch pedal travel.
9. Install the reservoir cap.
10. Check the clutch pedal reserve. Test the clutch system for normal operation.
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 5:47 AM
Tiny
DANIEL JOSEPH SWANSON
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I think the clutch is gone for good. When it ran out of fluid because the hose fell off when the dealership did not reinstall it right. After that it sounded like metal was grinding in the clutch. I do not have money, do not have a credit card and cannot get one. I tried a gofundme page but no that did not work either. How do I make a Ford Dealership honor a two year parts and labor guaranty when they would fix it the first time?
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 5:55 AM
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You will need to contact the area representative for the area the dealer that worked on your car. Tell the service manager you want the name of the rep. If he does not give you the name, then call Ford customer service and they will get you the name and may even try to help you with the issue.

Did you get the warranty in writing?

Roy
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 5:59 AM
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DANIEL JOSEPH SWANSON
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The problem with Ford is I was fighting with them for four years and six dealerships refusing to do the Takata airbag recall. I made the mistake of saying lawyer and now they hang up on me every time. The warranty is on all their websites, dealerships and was on the form. Because it is a clutch they think I am the one damaging it! I am out of luck!
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 6:03 AM
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DANIEL JOSEPH SWANSON
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Another dealership pinched the o2 sensor wire between the engine block and the transmission. Creating a fake check engine light. Then they go and lie and tell BBB, attorney general's office that it was already there. All the dealerships in Louisville Kentucky are criminal organizations that are getting away with dangerous things.
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 6:08 AM
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Yes, once you say, lawyer, all conversations stop. Lawyers talk to lawyers and no personal conversations are allowed. That is why they will not talk to you.

Try working with customer service and see if they can help you.

Roy
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 6:15 AM
Tiny
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Find out which court to file your small claims suit in and actually go, spend the filing fee and file the suit on your own if you have to. That should force their hand. Then when they appoint a lawyer to fight you and submit what law they relate to in their defense, read as much about the law as you can and learn to file your briefs or whatever and fight. I went all the way from circuit court, through the court of special appeals, court of appeals and all the way to the supreme court once all for only like $85.00 because I was unemployed. Once they see you are willing to fight and are right, they might just give in. If not, gather all the proof together that you have, start to develop a suit and begin, Now when they see that a suit is actually filed, they know you are serious. Good luck!
Start here with the AOC-175 Small Claims Complaint and read the Kentucky Small Claims Handbook.
https://courts.ky.gov/courts/Jefferson/smallclaims/Pages/LegalForms.aspx
that form is on this page and here is the form. https://courts.ky.gov/resources/legalforms/Pages/legalformlibrary.aspx
https://courts.ky.gov/resources/legalforms/LegalForms/175.pdf
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 7:12 AM
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DANIEL JOSEPH SWANSON
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I have been in contact with Ford and the dealership now. Apparently it was august 2016 the second time it was in. It was 2017 when the hose clip failed. According to Ford it was when the original clutch which by the way turned out to be aftermarket, that the two year warranty started. The second clutch was not covered by that warranty but was real parts. Seems their part distributor went under that resurfaces the flywheel. At this point I do not have a court case.
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 7:27 AM
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For starters do not believe anything they say. They could tell you just about anything and if you believe any of it, you loose. Gather your own proof, if you feel you are correct and they are wrong, file the small claim suit. Get the ball rolling, then see what they say. Stop calling them and have them lie to you. Have them file a response to the court instead.
As far as I can tell it would cost you $33.25 to file a claim.
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Thursday, April 19th, 2018 AT 8:12 AM
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DANIEL JOSEPH SWANSON
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Well it appears my clutch is not yet broke as bad as I thought. The linkage I think it is called broke off by the pedal and the floorboards. I did not see the broken piece at night. Maybe just need to try replacing the master cylinder?
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Friday, April 20th, 2018 AT 9:50 AM
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Yes, replace the master cylinder and see if it resolves your issue.

Roy
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