My car overhears only when accelerating, but when idle stays cool even for one hour with no problem

Tiny
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The problem start when a coolant level signal showing up on my dash board for while and disappear with out any change in the car temperature. After a couple of months from that my car mixed oil with water. I took it to mechanic he said you have blown engine cooler. I changed it, but another problem cam up the car overheats straight up when I accelerate and if I stop and turn the car off and on a gain the temperature gets back to normal!

Note: I changed the thermostat, and checked all the cooling lines the all good and water is circulating good!

Pleas help me, I am worried that I have blown head gasket or cracked block.
Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 7:10 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Is there any white smoke from the exhaust or evidence of coolant mixing with the oil? It sounds like a head gasket related issue. Is the coolant level going low?

Take a look through this link and let me know if it helps. It explains how to check for a head gasket issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

Let me know if that helps or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 8:34 PM
Tiny
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Thanks Joe for your help.

I used the fluid tester and it turns yellow! But what is confusing me why it does not overheat when is on stationary even if you keep it running for more then one hour only when you start driving the temperature raise up to the top in one minute!

Thanks again.
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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 9:17 PM
Tiny
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When you load the engine and it revs, the cylinders can build pressure a lot faster. The idea that the test changed the fluid yellow indicates there is exhaust gasses in the coolant/cooling system. As the engine revs, the build-up of pressure is likely causing the flow of coolant to slow or not circulate properly.

I would be happy to provide directions for replacing the head gaskets if you want.

Let me know.

Joe
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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 9:28 PM
Tiny
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So you think I need to change the head gasket in my case? If so can you give me direction for it?

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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 9:31 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

If you are getting exhaust gasses in the coolant, it sounds like a bad head gasket. I will provide the directions. They are extensive. The attached pics correlate with the directions. Note: The directions show one side at a time. The install directions are last.

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2016 Audi S6 Quattro Sedan (4GC) V8-4.0L Turbo (CTGE)
Cylinder Head Bank 1 (Right), Removing

Procedure

Remove the lock carrier. Refer to 50 - Body Exterior - Lock Carrier; Lock Carrier, Removing and Installing.
Remove the right turbocharger. Refer to Turbocharger, Removing and Installing.
Remove the right camshafts. Refer to Camshaft, Removing and Installing.
Disconnect the connector -2-.
Pic 1

Ignore item -1-.
Remove the Cylinder Head Coolant Valve -N489- -arrow- from the bracket and push it forward.
Pic 2

Bring the impact member into the installation position and secure it. Refer to 63 - Body Exterior - Front Bumper; Overview - Impact Member.
Position the -10-222A- on the left and right suspension strut towers as illustrated.
Pic 3

Mount the assembly appliance as illustrated.
Pic 4

Tighten the -T10013- with the threaded pin -1- of the -T10338- in the left front threaded hole in the cylinder block as shown in the illustration.
Pic 5

Engage the carabiner hook of the -10-222A/11- on the -T10013- and pretension the engine slightly.
Remove the generator. Refer to 27 - Electrical Equipment - Generator; Generator, Removing and Installing.
Remove the right engine mount. Refer to Right Engine Mount, Removing and Installing.
Remove the nut -2- and free up the ground wire.
Pic 6

Remove the bolts -arrows- and remove the right engine support -1-.
Disconnect the vacuum hoses -arrows-.
Pic 7

Remove the -N316- -1- from the bracket and free up the wires at the right intake manifold -2-.
Disconnect the connector -arrow- for the -G247-.
Pic 8

Ignore item -1-.
Disconnect the connector -2- for the -G336-.
Pic 9

Move the noise insulation -1- to the side.
Pic 10

Disconnect electrical connector -arrow- from the fuel injectors.
Remove the -T40071-.
Pic 11

The procedure is illustrated with the camshaft installed.
Remove the bolts -arrows-.
Pic 12

Loosen the cylinder head bolts in the sequence -1 to 10-.
Remove the bolts and the cylinder head carefully.
Lay the cylinder head on a soft surface, such as foam.

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2016 Audi S6 Quattro Sedan (4GC) V8-4.0L Turbo (CTGE)
Cylinder Head Bank 2 (Left), Removing

Procedure

Remove the lock carrier. Refer to 50 - Body Exterior - Lock Carrier; Lock Carrier, Removing and Installing.
Remove the left turbocharger. Refer to Turbocharger, Removing and Installing.
Remove the left camshaft. Refer to Camshaft, Removing and Installing.
Remove the Cylinder Head Coolant Valve -N489- -arrow- from the bracket and push it forward.
Pic 13

Bring the impact member into the installation position and secure it. Refer to 63 - Body Exterior - Front Bumper; Overview - Impact Member.
Position the -10-222A- on the left and right suspension strut towers as illustrated.
Pic 14
Mount the assembly appliance as illustrated.
Image

Tighten the -T10013- with the threaded pin -1- of the -T10338- in the left front threaded hole in the cylinder block as shown in the illustration.
Pic 15

Engage the carabiner hook of the -10-222A/11- on the -T10013- and pretension the engine slightly.
Remove the left front Knock Sensor 3 -G198-. Refer to Knock Sensor 3 G198, Removing and Installing.
Disconnect the vacuum hose -3- and free it up.
Pic 16

Remove the secondary air injection solenoid valve from the mount and set it aside.
1 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve 2 -N320-
2 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve -N112-
pic 17

Ignore item -1-.
Disconnect the connector -4 and 5- and then free up the wiring harness from the intake manifold.
Disconnect the connector -2- for the Intake Manifold Runner Position Sensor 2 -G512- -1-.
Pic 18

Disconnect electrical connector -arrow- from the fuel injectors.
Pic 19

Bring the subframe into the installed position and tighten the bolts by hand.
Remove the -T40071-.
Image

pic 20
The procedure is illustrated with the camshaft installed.
Remove the bolts -arrows-.
Pic 21

Loosen the cylinder head bolts in the sequence -1 to 10-.
Remove the bolts and the cylinder head carefully.
Lay the cylinder head on a soft surface, such as foam.

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Install

2016 Audi S6 Quattro Sedan (4GC) V8-4.0L Turbo (CTGE)
Cylinder Head, Installing

Replace any bolts that were tightened with an additional turn.
Replace seals, gaskets and O-rings.
When installing a replacement cylinder head, coat the contact surfaces between the hydraulic adjusting elements, the roller rocker levers and the cam running surfaces with oil.
Secure all hose connections with hose clamps appropriate for the model. Refer to Parts Catalog.
It is necessary to replace all the coolant and engine oil whenever the cylinder head or the cylinder head gasket are replaced.

The cylinder head for cylinder bank 2 (left) is shown in the illustration.
Pic 22

If there are no alignment bushings -arrows- at the locations marked in the cylinder block, insert them.
Install the cylinder head gasket on the alignment bushings in the cylinder block.
Cylinder head seal installation position: Identification "oben" (top) or the cylinder head part number.
Set cylinder head in place.
Install the cylinder bolts by all the way in by hand.
Tighten the cylinder head bolts. Refer to Cylinder Head - Tightening Specification and Sequence.
Image
There is no requirement to tighten the cylinder head bolts after repairs.
Cylinder Bank 1 (Right):

pic 23

Press the right camshaft timing chain tensioner guide rails in as far as the stop using a screwdriver -1- and secure the chain tensioner with a -T40071-.
Image
The chain tensioner is lubricated with oil and can only be pushed back slowly by applying constant pressure.
The procedure is illustrated with the camshaft installed.
Cylinder Bank 2 (Left):

pic 24

Press the left camshaft timing chain tensioner guide rails in as far as the stop using a screwdriver -1- and secure the chain tensioner with a -T40071-.

The chain tensioner is lubricated with oil and can only be pushed back slowly by applying constant pressure.
The procedure is illustrated with the camshaft installed.
Continued for Both Sides

Installation is performed in reverse order of removal, while noting the following:

Install the engine support and the right engine mount. Refer to Right Engine Mount, Removing and Installing.
Install the wires. Refer to 97 - Electrical Equipment - Relay Carriers, Fuse Panels and E-Boxes; Overview - Relay Carriers, Fuse Panels and E-Boxes and Wiring diagrams, Troubleshooting & Component locations;.
Install the front bumper cover. Refer to 63 - Body Exterior - Front Bumper; Bumper Cover, Removing and Installing.
Install the left front Knock Sensor 3 -G198-. Refer to Knock Sensor 3 G198, Removing and Installing.
Install the camshafts. Refer to Camshaft, Removing and Installing.
Install the turbocharger. Refer to Turbocharger, Removing and Installing.
Change the engine oil. Refer to Maintenance Booklet 411
Replace the coolant. Refer to Filling.
Tightening Specifications

Refer to Overview - Cylinder Head
Refer to Cylinder Head - Tightening Specification and Sequence
Refer to 27 - Electrical Equipment - Generator Overview - Generator.
Refer to 50 - Body Exterior - Lock Carrier Overview - Lock Carrier.

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Let me know if this helps.

Take care,
Joe
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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 10:28 PM
Tiny
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I could not see the pictures.
Regards
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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 10:33 PM
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Hi,

I was having trouble sending. Did you receive them now?

Joe
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Friday, September 18th, 2020 AT 10:35 PM

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