Crank no start after shutting off while driving, can I get the PCM Pinout diagram?

Tiny
JBCOMPMANJR
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  • 2002 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN
  • 3.3L
  • V6
  • 2WD
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  • 128,000 MILES
My van listed above just cut off while driving home one night back in December. Since then, it will crank but will not start.

I've got strong spark. Confirmed my other tests for that by pulling fuel pump relay and shooting a little ether in the throttle body. It fired right up.

The fuel pump is working too. In fact, I've got too much fuel on cylinders 1 and 2. Consequently no fuel on 5 and 6. And that leads me to the problem. Skip ahead after a few more tests.

The PCM is grounding all the injectors continually (even when the ignition switch is off). So, the injectors are all open all the time once the switch turned on and B+ is supplied.

It's not the injector harness itself. I pulled it and tested. The harness leading to that one does not have the melting problem that sometimes occurs with these vans. Checked for that too. When I disconnect the PCM the grounding goes away. So I tried another PCM from junk yard (cheaper way to rule out bad PCM) and still that same continuous ground to the injectors.

So I'm looking at an input problem to the PCM. BTW both the camshaft and crankshaft sensors have now been replaced while on this journey because both showed OL on the ohm meter (maybe they got fried by whatever is tricking the PCM).

I'm kind of at a loss. Looking for a short or broken wire coming into the PCM but need some pinout guidance that Haynes and Chilton's don't provide.
Thursday, January 23rd, 2025 AT 8:04 AM

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Tiny
BORIS K
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Hello,

Strange behavior to say the least.
Have you tried scanning for fault codes?
Below please see diagrams for the injectors back to PCM connector C1
The injectors are supplied with 12V on the brown/white wire from the ASD relay
As you have spark it is unlikely to be a crankshaft sensor issue

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Boris
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Thursday, January 23rd, 2025 AT 9:03 AM
Tiny
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Awesome! Thank you!

I have so many notes I various places on this investigation. So I'm not 100% this is the right list, but I believe these are the first codes I pulled after the initial breakdown.

P1388
P622
P1193
P508
P509

Do you happen to have C2 diagram also? Since I'm looking at a potentially faulty input to the PCM, I want to be able to check those wires as well.
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Thursday, January 23rd, 2025 AT 10:08 AM
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Also, in addition to the C2 diagram, can you tell me which shop or service manual I would need to purchase that would contain the full set of wiring diagrams for this van?
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Friday, January 24th, 2025 AT 9:12 PM
Tiny
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One more request. It appears that the ground for the ASD relay is on connector 2. In addition to the C2 diagram can you also share the diagram for the ASD and fuel pump relays?
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Sunday, January 26th, 2025 AT 8:26 AM
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BORIS K
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Hello,

Information for PCM C2 connector.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Boris
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Monday, January 27th, 2025 AT 3:33 AM

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