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Tiny
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  • 1993 DODGE SHADOW
  • 2.2L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 150,000 MILES
Went for a drive and came back home and when I got out noticed headlights were still on even with keys in my hand. I put emergency brake on to see if the daytime running light module was gone but they still did not go out. Looked at the clusters of relays but cannot figure out which one runs the light. Can you show me which relay it is or help me figure out what the problem could be? Thank you
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 11:32 AM

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Tiny
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There are no relays for the lights, so it is either a switch or maybe dimmer switch if mounted on floor. Start with the switch first.
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 12:22 PM
Tiny
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It was daytime and I never pulled the light switch on but they come on once I start driving. Is that the switch or is it another one you are talking about? Thank you
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 12:40 PM
Tiny
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So there are no relays to run the headlights?
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 12:52 PM
Tiny
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Not on your model car and it may be the headlight switch unless it is a wiring issue.
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 1:04 PM
Tiny
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The head light switch I pull out at bottom of dash or the switch on the steering column that also has the signal light switch in it. Thanks for the help.
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 1:11 PM
Tiny
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Just changed the one on the column but still the same thing, lights are still on.
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 2:20 PM
Tiny
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The headlight switch is the one you pull out to make the headlights work.
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 3:04 PM
Tiny
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Okay thanks, I will change it in the morning starting to get dark here now.
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Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 AT 3:23 PM
Tiny
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Is the daytime running light module in the headlight switch also or is it located some where else-thankyou
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 3:49 AM
Tiny
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Just changed the switch you pull out to put headlights on same thing the lights still stay on. So I have changed switch on column and the one you pull to put lights on and still have not got it. Lights still stay on all the time. Thanks
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 5:27 AM
Tiny
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Well then your module is bad we do not know if you have DRL's or not so we have to go with a basic system. But instead of changing parts to find the problem have it scanned to make sure the DRL is bad trouble is with your old system you'll have to find someone that can scan that old system.
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 5:30 AM
Tiny
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Where is this module located mine shadow is a 1993 but I also have a 1994 the whole car for parts. Thanks
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 6:02 AM
Tiny
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It might need to be programmed to your car if so a mechanic will have to do it. It is on the fender shield near left end of bumper on a 1993 on a 1994 it is on left inner fender panel above wheel well.
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 7:08 AM
Tiny
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So what will I do try it first to see if it works and then if it does not take it and get it programmed or just take it and get it programmed first? Thanks for the help.
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 7:49 AM
Tiny
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Try it first.
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 9:25 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the help, appreciate it, it was the daytime running light module as soon as I changed it lights went out and is working properly. Thanks again.
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Thursday, April 27th, 2017 AT 2:03 PM
Tiny
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  • 1993 DODGE SHADOW
  • 2.2L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 150,000 MILES
If I unhook each relay one at a time will that let the headlights go out and tell me that is the one that is bad-by unplugging them one at a time and plugging them back in if they do not go out.
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Saturday, April 29th, 2017 AT 3:46 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Could be a bad headlight switch as well or a wire that has worn through touching something to make them stay on. But if you unplug the relay and they go out it may be the problem. Try switching with another relay see if it still happens.
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Saturday, April 29th, 2017 AT 3:46 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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There is a dozen of relays in a cluster not sure which one it is, but if I keep trying them when I unplug the right one the lights should go out right?
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Saturday, April 29th, 2017 AT 3:46 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Our schematic does not show any relays for a 1993 shadow.
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Saturday, April 29th, 2017 AT 3:46 PM (Merged)

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