Key will not turn off and pull it out

Tiny
BROTHER BUZZ
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  • 2006 CHEVROLET IMPALA
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  • V6
  • 2WD
  • 89,000 MILES
Changed the battery in wife's car got distracted left it out for hours, put it back in went to start turned to on position, all lights/gauges working like always, go to start no crank. I went to turn key off, would not go all the way to off. Key stuck in ignition switch. The transmission gear shift will not come out of park. Help me guys please. Is my buddy Steve W. Still there? He has bailed me out before, one excellent mechanic. Anybody help!
Thursday, July 19th, 2018 AT 10:08 PM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi and thanks for using 2CarPros. Com.

It sounds like you popped a fuse. Under the hood is one if the fuse panels. Check the fuse for the ignition. I have attached a picture of the fuse panel for you. I just had a GMC Envoy do the exact same thing. No crank, cannot turn key fully off, and all the lights came on as normal.

Let me know if you find this is the problem. I hope it helps.

Take care,
Joe
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Saturday, March 13th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
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STEVE W.
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Did she look at you with those "you broke it" eyes?
Do you hear the shift interlock click when you step on the brake? The description sounds like it has bound up and is not returning fully. On the transmission end it latches the shift lever in park until you step on the brake. When it is shifted into park it lets the key rotate fully back to be removed. The first item is to prevent the car from being started in gear, the second is to prevent you from being able to lock the steering wheel if the vehicle is moving.

There should be an interlock bypass to allow you to get things to work.
However it is a bear to use all the time.

The common issue with the floor shifted version is that the wiring connector inside the console that attaches to the switch on the shift lever fails. This is because unlike 99% of GM vehicles where the switch is in a fixed position and the lever moves an actuator. GM placed the switch on the lever so the wiring harness moves every time you move the shift lever. Then they added a clamp so that the wiring just keeps flexing in an S shape. The wires at the connector only take just so much until they break.

To get to it you need to remove the console. The trim ring around the shifter pries out with gentle force. Those cheap plastic trim tools work great or you can wrap some tape on a screwdriver to keep from scratching the plastic. Once it is off you will see two bolts (7mm IIRC). Now go to the rear of the console and under the tray buried at the bottom of the compartment there are four more of the same type bolts. Once the bolts are out you pull up and back to get it out. I have seen a few with extra screws up in the front tray as well.
With the console out of the way look at the shift assembly on the passenger side. That connector and wiring are where you will likely find a broken wire. The repair is to get a replacement pigtail from GM or to get new pins and make your own using the old shell and some flexible wires of the same colors. Then make the wires so they do not flex as far and relocate the clamp so the harness can move easier. No real good image of it but it is the only connector there. Most of the time the wire breaks inside the insulation. Give the wire a light tug and the insulation will form an hourglass over the break.

If it is the column shifted version, the interlock is still likely the issue, it is a bit harder to deal with as it is mounted to the column on the side near the center stack. To get to it you remove the trim under the column and look at the lower column area to the right side.
See if it moves freely. If not it is binding.

Now, if you do not find a broken wire or a binding shift lock it is possible that the BCM (Body Control Module) has an internal fault and will not trigger the interlock. In that event you need a replacement BCM and to have it flashed to match your car.
Hope you find a broken wire.
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Saturday, March 13th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
Tiny
BROTHER BUZZ
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Hey Steve, how you been? You are right on the money, she had that evil look, head spinning in circles, lol. You been teaching me good. While I was waiting on a answer from you I went out and checked fuses/relays etc. I will get back to this. I was aware of the problem with the wires inside center console. I have had that problem with three of my cars years ago, so after the fuse checking I starting tearing apart center console got it down to took out the bolts. It was getting dark, so I called it a night, it did look like there was a wire broken off down there, however tomorrow will tell when I pull off console, anyway I pushed the release button and took it out of park/went down to low and back to park/tried/did take the key out, but no noise when stepping on brake/put the key in and started right up, shifted to drive/went around the block parked it, put in park and (Houston we got trouble). Back to the same thing; both locked up again, time for a beer. Back earlier with the fuse checking when turning the key to the on position the PWR/TRN relay makes a loud clicking sound and the battery #1fuse the ones with the see through plastic top. When I pulled it out to check it I checked the blade side to see if one side was hot/both sides of blades were hot one side was dimmer, if this helps you, I hope or anything you want me to check please let me know. I appreciate all the help you and 2carpros have helped and taught me. Is there a relearning procedure to do because the battery was out of car for 3 days? As soon as daylight arrives I will continue on pulling of console and checking on the wires, and wait for you. Thanks again Steve, brotherbuzz. Note: when I turn the key to on position all lights come on but the check-eng- light/ABS light/and the airbag with little man sitting in the seat are on and stay on. Thanks
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Saturday, March 13th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
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STEVE W.
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No re-learn as far as security or that. It will relearn shift points and idle position but that should be all. The power fuses run hot because of the current flow. Once the issue you have is fixed we can see if the lights go out. Because of whet the switch does they can be related.
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Saturday, March 13th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
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Hey Steve, I just got back on the car today, and the new battery was down to 10.2 volts, gave it a quick charge, hooked it back up, about ten seconds later there is a clicking sound coming somewhere under the dash, to me it sounds like one of the AC/heater doors sounds like when there going out, but it comes on if you turn the key on or, wife says when the key is out before, also shes just telling me (now) she has had to get a jump two to three times in the last month, now my eyes are big, and my head is turning in circles I.D.K. I do not know about the wires on the side of gear shift, one wire seems loose, the white one, should I order the pigtail? Is there something else I can be checking? Tonight after I charged up the battery, got in tried to turn the key the horn started blasting away, I turned the key to start it, turned over two to three times, sounded like it was dead again, checked voltage again, down to 10.6 volts, help me brother with anything to do or try. Thanks Steve W. And 2CarPros. Brother buzz
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Saturday, March 13th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
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STEVE W.
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A drain that large could be a bad diode in the alternator, dead battery + jump could do that on the "stuff" they build these days. Disconnect the battery negative, hook a test light in between. With the draw it should light up bright. Remove the battery cable from the alternator and see if goes off or a lot dimmer. Pull it off and have it tested to be sure.

I would replace the pigtail on the shifter - loose can give you headaches like you already have.
Ask her if the clicking was there before the first time she had to jump it or if it just started after the battery died. The HVAC will cycle the doors to reset the position sensors and low voltage could be making them hunt, or one got fried.
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Saturday, March 13th, 2021 AT 10:27 AM
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You are the man. I will get on it first thing this morning, I will get back to you, thanks.
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