Is there a way to distinguish a bad head gasket from a cracked cylinder head or block?

VLL

MEMBER
2014 TOYOTA PRIUS V
4 CYL
125,600 MILES

Toyota is saying that I need to replace my engine or buy another car. To have them verify/troubleshoot the problem it will cost me $2,125.00. Repairing is an additional cost. They said it's not a head gasket but likely a cracked head or block. My question is, is there's a way to distinguish a bad head gasket from a cracked cylinder head or block? Please, have you any suggestions. Thank you

This is what the Toyota mechanic sent to me:

Found code set p0301 and p0302 engine misfire /did notice low coolant in reservoir. Perform a block test at this time it failed, at this time exhaust gas going into the cooling system. Need to tear down for inspection /option install a used engine.
$2,125.55 +Tax (Troubleshoot cost only)

Used Engine 98,000 Miles - 1y P/L Warranty. Engine Replacement.
$12,389.77 + tax

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JACOBANDNICKOLAS

MECHANIC
109,799 POSTS

Hi,

First, the idea that two cylinders side by side have a misfire code makes it seem more likely to be a gasket. If the vehicle was overheated, I would suspect a possible engine issue.

As far as testing, here is a link that explains how to check for a cylinder head issue. This is while the engine is together.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

Now, since he indicated compressed air entering the cooling system, it could be what he said or a gasket. Here is the tough part. The cylinder head requires over 20 hours to remove and replace which is going to be expensive. Actually, removing and replacing, and basically rebuilding the head calls for 27 hours. See pic below.

At this point, we know there is an issue between cylinders one and two. We know compressed air is entering the cooling system. So, we have one choice. The cylinder head needs removed and inspected along with the gasket. If there is no evidence of a gasket issue, then they have to Magna-flux the engine and cylinder head to see if there are cracks present.

I wish I had a better answer, but that is where we are with this issue.

Let me know if you have questions about whether this helps, or if there is anything I can do to help.

Take care,

Joe

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Is there a way to distinguish a bad head gasket from a cracked cylinder head or block?

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