New clutch installed and not working properly

Tiny
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  • 1998 TOYOTA TERCEL
  • 1.5L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
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I'm a beginner. I changed a clutch with a new clutch set but I have the problem that it does not want to apply or apply rough. I have this question, maybe someone laugh or something, but it's possible that the master cylinder clutch is damaged too at the same time? I purge the system with new dot3 liquid, that change, can damaged the master cylinder clutch?

when the car is not running (engine off) the transmission shifts apply, but when I turn the engine on and it apply rough or not apply. I reviewed all the things that I do 6 times with all the information you send to me and other that I found in the shop-key pro program on my college and ask and tell what I do to my teachers and I make everything okay by the book. The only thing that I did not changed was the master cylinder clutch. I put new grease into the transmission 75w 90. 2 quarts and I measure the level until the fill plug is dripping some grease. And that's it. What I left to do? What have I missed? Change the master cylinder clutch.
Wednesday, May 22nd, 2019 AT 5:58 PM

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Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

Based on your description, either the clutch master cylinder is bad or the clutch slave cylinder is bad. If you pump the clutch several times, can you smoothly shift into gear with the engine running?

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After reading your question, my first suspect is the clutch master cylinder. Here are the directions for replacement or overhaul. The attached pictures correlate with the directions.

CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER

pic 1

COMPONENTS

REMOVAL

1. DRAW OUT FLUID WITH SYRINGE

pic 2

2. DISCONNECT CLUTCH LINE
Using Special Service Tool (SST), disconnect the line. Use a container to catch the fluid.
SST 09023-00100

Torque: 15 Nm (155 kgf-cm, 11 ft. Lbs.)

3. REMOVE CLIP AND CLEVIS PIN
4. REMOVE 2 MOUNTING NUTS AND PULL OUT MASTER CYLINDER

Torque: 12 Nm (120 kgf-cm, 9 ft. Lbs.)

DISASSEMBLY

pic 3

1. REMOVE RESERVOIR TANK
a. Using a pin punch and hammer, drive out the slotted spring pin.
B. Remove the reservoir tank and grommet.

Pic 4

2. REMOVE PUSH ROD
Pull off the boot, and using snap ring pliers, remove the snap ring.
3. REMOVE PISTON

REASSEMBLY

pic 5

1. COAT PARTS WITH LITHIUM SOAP BASE GLYCOL GREASE, AS SHOWN
2. INSERT PISTON INTO CYLINDER
3. INSTALL PUSH ROD ASSEMBLY WITH SNAP RING

pic 6

4. INSTALL RESERVOIR TANK
a. Install the reservoir tank and a new grommet.
B. Using a pin punch and hammer, drive in the slotted spring pin.

INSTALLATION
Installation is in the reverse order of removal.

HINT: After installation, bleed system and adjust clutch pedal.

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Also, here are the directions for removing, overhauling, and replacement of the clutch slave cylinder which can also be bad. The difficult thing is to determine which is the problem. Both can cause this issue, a soft or spongy clutch pedal and so on. Most commonly, you will find a leak at the slave. The master cylinder usually goes bad internally.

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CLUTCH RELEASE CYLINDER

pic 7

COMPONENTS

REMOVAL

pic 8

1. DISCONNECT CLUTCH LINE
Using Special Service Tool (SST), disconnect the line. Use a container to catch the fluid.
SST 09023-00100

Torque: 15 Nm (155 kgf-cm, 11 ft. Lbs.)

2. REMOVE 2 BOLTS AND PULL OUT RELEASE CYLINDER

Torque: 12 Nm (120 kgf-cm, 9 ft. Lbs.)

DISASSEMBLY

1. PULL OUT BOOT WITH PUSH ROD

pic 9

2. REMOVE PISTON
Using compressed air, remove the piston with the spring from the cylinder.

REASSEMBLY

pic 10

1. COAT PISTON WITH LITHIUM SOAP BASE GLYCOL GREASE, AS SHOWN
2. INSTALL PISTON WITH SPRING INTO CYLINDER
3. INSTALL BOOT WITH PUSH ROD TO CYLINDER

INSTALLATION
Installation is in the reverse order of removal.

HINT: After installation, bleed clutch system.

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Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Wednesday, May 22nd, 2019 AT 8:39 PM
Tiny
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Thank you so much jacobandnickolas for your support and your knowledge. The problem was the clutch master cylinder. The customer is satisfied with the work and his face when he test the car was priceless.
I have a Mazda mx3 1994 1.6l dohc. Did you have the diagram for the plug of 6 cables that go in the distributor? Can you send it to me please? I need it.
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Sunday, May 26th, 2019 AT 10:51 AM
Tiny
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This is the plug for a Mazda mx3 1994 1.6l dohc I need to know the order for the cables. I need the diagram of color for the cables. I send you a photo of what I have it was broken.
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Sunday, May 26th, 2019 AT 10:54 AM
Tiny
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Hi and welcome back:

I hate to ask, but I need you to start a new thread for this question. We are trying to keep the threads specific to one type of issue so that is helps more people in the future.

I will watch for your new post and answer it as soon as I see it. Again, sorry for the inconvenience. By the way, I'm glad you got the other customer satisfied. Good Job!

Take care,
Joe
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Sunday, May 26th, 2019 AT 5:40 PM
Tiny
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You don't need to apologize, it's me.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
I'm going to do a new answer and sorry it's my fault.
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 2:49 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:

No problem. I just hate asking.

Take care of yourself.

Joe
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Monday, May 27th, 2019 AT 7:50 PM
Tiny
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You help us, the new ones, to begin do things right. The way it goes. Thanks, so much thanks.
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2019 AT 4:43 PM
Tiny
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You are very welcome. It's a pleasure to help, especially when it's appreciated. You take care and come back any time.

Joe
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2019 AT 5:32 PM

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