Ignition timing

2001 HONDA ACCORD
200,000 MILES • 4 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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I the car listed above SE that hit the gas. now it acts like it want to stall at the stop sign. someone said the timing could be off. so I was going to check it and I found a video that is similar and I took a screenshot of it to see if that is correct.
Mar 11, 2021 at 3:43 PM
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This is what I found on YouTube:
Mar 11, 2021 at 3:45 PM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

I'm not sure what I am seeing in the pic. It looks like the transmission pan.

As far as the issue, timing usually doesn't change unless something is left loose. And actually, it isn't adjustable on this vehicle.

Do me a favor. Let me know exactly what is happening, if anything happened to cause it, or anything you can think of that may help.

I have to be honest, it sounds like it could be an engine vacuum leak or even a fuel pressure issue.

Take care and God Bless,

Joe
Mar 11, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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Someone looked at it and said everything was good, but it makes a rough sound and also whoever owned it floored it and after that when he came to a stop it acted like it wanted to stall.
Mar 11, 2021 at 8:25 PM
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The picture was a screenshot from ignition timing on another vehicle similar to this one and I was trying to do ignition timing.
Mar 11, 2021 at 8:26 PM
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This is the one I'm messing with.
Mar 11, 2021 at 9:22 PM
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Hi,

I don't mean to be a pain, but I'm looking at an exhaust manifold and a thermostat housing. Neither one deals with timing. Also, the timing is not adjustable. It is controlled by the PCM.

If possible, record it cranking and running so I can hear it. If it is a timing issue, I should be able to tell when it is cranking.

Let me know.

Joe
Mar 12, 2021 at 5:40 PM
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Oh, okay. I'll do that then.
Mar 12, 2021 at 6:03 PM
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Well, he said he hit the gas really hard. now when he comes to a stop it acted like it wanted to cut off or stall. I thought it was the converter or main relay because Honda are bad for that.
Mar 12, 2021 at 6:57 PM
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Other than the feeling it will stall when stopped, how is the engine running?

Joe
Mar 12, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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Sounds rough.
Mar 12, 2021 at 7:08 PM
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Have you checked for vacuum leaks? Fuel pressure?

Are there any odd exhaust sounds?
Mar 12, 2021 at 7:11 PM
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He had the exhaust checked but the engine itself is burning gas bad and it sounds like it does not want to run.
Mar 12, 2021 at 7:35 PM
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Have you checked fuel pump pressure? The regulator could be bad and the pressure too high.

Also, can you record it running so I can hear it?

Joe
Mar 12, 2021 at 10:56 PM
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It's got check engine lights but no obd 2.
Mar 13, 2021 at 7:21 AM
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Do you mean there are no codes? A faulty crankshaft position sensor can cause issues and not set codes. Take a look through this link:.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-crankshaft-sensor

I attached a pic below showing its location. Check to make sure there are no damaged wires or corrosion at the connector.

Joe
Mar 14, 2021 at 6:48 PM
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It's got a check engine light popping up but no way to check with scanner. someone told me you got to jump the connector to count the flashes which make no sense to me.
Mar 14, 2021 at 7:05 PM
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Why can't you check it? Do you have a scan tool? The data link connector (DLC) is above the left kick panel under the dash. See the attached pic.

Joe
Mar 14, 2021 at 7:20 PM
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This one doesn't have the obd 2 I don't believe so they said check the blue connector and jump it and do it that way I contacted the dealer they said they the only ones that can and I said that's bull.
Mar 14, 2021 at 7:34 PM
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I have to be honest. I'm not sure what you are dealing with. Vehicles after 1995 were required to have an OBD2 system. I have no idea what they are asking you to jump.
Mar 15, 2021 at 11:28 AM
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It's 1991 Honda I put 2001 by accident.
Mar 15, 2021 at 12:05 PM
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Okay, that makes more sense. LOL

Follow this link to retrieve OBD1 codes:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/honda-car-1990-1995-obd1-code-retrieval-procedure-and-definition-table

Let me know what you find.

Joe
Mar 15, 2021 at 5:42 PM