Repeated ignition failure

Tiny
LEANNA BARKER
  • MEMBER
  • 2006 JEEP LIBERTY
  • 3.7L
  • V6
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 160,000 MILES
We keep having a repeated problem with our vehicle. It runs and drives great for awhile, and then all of a sudden it will either quit starting all together, or it will turn over and then sputter and shut off. When it completely wont start, we have lights, radio, and all the dash lights work fine. Windows, door locks etc, all work fine. There is just nothing when you turn the key to start. We keep repeatedly having this problem, every time we get it fixed it just does it again. We love the vehicle, but I'm tired of doing this. Help please!
Friday, March 15th, 2019 AT 8:18 PM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
  • MECHANIC
  • 109,874 POSTS
Welcome to 2CarPros.

You mention that each time you have it fixed, it does it again. What is being done to repair the problem?

Next, anytime there is an electrical issue like this, I like to start at the source of power, the battery. I realize all the lights come on, but make sure the battery terminals are clean and tight. He is a link you may find interesting.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/everything-goes-dead-when-engine-is-cranked

Now, since the problem seems to be related to the starter not working, we have a couple possible issues. First, I want you to locate the starter relay. It is under the hood in the power distribution box. I attached a picture of the relay /. fuse box which indicates which one is the relay. Once you locate the relay, switch it with another one with the same part number located in the box. See if the car then starts. Also, if you would rather check the relay itself, here is a link that shows how to test a relay. Additionally, I have attached a few links that will help you to test the relay.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

If the relay tests good and this doesn't help, I need you to check of the starter is getting power. Here is a link that explains how to do this.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

On this test, you will need a helper to turn the key to the start position while you check for power to the smaller wire on the starter. You should only get 12v power to the smaller wire when the key is in the start position. The larger wire always has 12v because it is directly connected to the battery, so make sure not to do anything to short that wire.

If you find there is power to the smaller wire under test conditions and the starter doesn't engage, replace the starter.

Here are a couple links that discuss a starter and in general how one is replaced.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-a-starter-and-solenoid-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-starter-motor

Here are directions for starter replacement specific to your vehicle. The remaining pictures, starting with number 2, correlate with these directions.

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STARTER MOTOR

REMOVAL
1. Disconnect and isolate negative battery cable.
2. Raise and support vehicle.
3. Remove 2 flange bolts securing left exhaust downpipe to crossover pipe. Lower pipe slightly to allow front propeller shaft removal.
4. Remove front propeller shaft.

pic 2
5. Remove two starter heat shield bolts (3) at side of starter.
6. Remove starter heat shield nut at front of starter.
7. Remove starter heat shield.

pic 3
8. Remove solenoid wire connector (3) from solenoid terminal.
9. Remove battery cable eyelet (2) from stud on starter solenoid.

pic 4
10. Remove two starter mounting bolts (2).
11. Position front of starter to face rear of vehicle. Rotate starter until solenoid position is located below starter.
12. Remove starter from vehicle by passing it between exhaust pipe and transmission bellhousing.

INSTALLATION
1. Position front of starter towards rear of vehicle with solenoid position rotated until it is located below starter. Install starter by passing it between exhaust pipe and transmission bellhousing.

pic 5
2. Position starter into bellhousing and install two bolts (2) and tighten to 54 N.m (40 ft. lbs.).
3. Install battery cable and nut to stud on starter solenoid and tighten to 11 N.m (100 in. lbs.).
4. Install solenoid wire connector to solenoid terminal.
5. Position starter heat shield and install nut at front of starter.
6. Install 2 starter heat shield bolts at side of starter.
7. Install front propeller shaft.
8. Install 2 flange bolts securing left exhaust downpipe to crossover pipe.
9. Lower vehicle.
10. Connect negative battery cable.

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Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Saturday, March 16th, 2019 AT 8:45 PM

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