1987 Honda Civic Starting issue

108,000 MILES • 4 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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COACHFATDADDY
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I just had timing belt replaced by a mechanic. He also replaced plugs, rotor button, and distributor cap. The plug wires are less than 2 years old and all have spark. Fuel pump is 5 years old. I got stranded then had it towed to him again and he found the fuel filter near the tank was in terrible shape. He replaced it and I had replaced the secondary one as well. Next I drained the gas tank and changed fuel filter again. It will start fine after sitting a long time a day or so. If I have driven 30-50 miles stop and go eat a meal then try to leave the car will turn over and over but will not start. Holding the gas pedal down for 4-5min of turning the engine it catches and just barely runs with pedal on the floor. I have put my hand at the exhaust and smell gas. I have used starting fluid during these times and it does the same thing. It takes from 10 -30minutes to get it going. Once going it runs perfectly idle about 750 no sputter and will not cut off. Even with breather assembly removed while spraying starting fluid it has this same problem of turning but not starting. It seems after it sits for 24-48 it will start. Seems it does this most repeatable after it has been run over a longer distance. I think it is related to the heat of the motor built up from dring ~20-30miles What else can I check? Seems like maybe the air is not right and it is flooding. Another thought I had was the coil is bad but I do not know what the ohm measurements are for the coil and if that could be it since it will run (85 miles most ) well after it gets going no issues. If it was vaccum I think it show up in the performance.
Mar 22, 2010 at 12:29 AM
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MMPRINCE4000
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Check the ignition module (ignitor). They will generally fail when hot and work when cool, but fail when hot again.
Mar 22, 2010 at 12:58 AM
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COACHFATDADDY
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[quote:d6c4e1f485="mmprince4000"]Check the ignition module (ignitor). They will generally fail when hot and work when cool, but fail when hot again.[/quote:d6c4e1f485]

Wouldnt this affect the cars performance while running? This is a very expensive part and I do not want to replace it if it does not need to be replaced. Is there a way to check it or are there other possible causes?
Mar 22, 2010 at 1:28 AM
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MMPRINCE4000
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Check with local parts stores to see if they can test it.

Also look at cost of distributor w/module as opposed to module itself.

Many Toyota models, you can buy dist. w/module cheaper than module itself.
Mar 24, 2010 at 1:27 AM
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COACHFATDADDY
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[quote:ba8cd9b07f="mmprince4000"]Check with local parts stores to see if they can test it.

Also look at cost of distributor w/module as opposed to module itself.

Many Toyota models, you can buy dist. w/module cheaper than module itself.[/quote:ba8cd9b07f]

This was not the module at all. This was a 'dirty fuel' issue where the plugs were fouled to the point they would not ignite.
Mar 24, 2010 at 2:28 AM
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MMPRINCE4000
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Glad to hear you found the problem, thanks for using 2carpros.
Mar 25, 2010 at 11:47 PM
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