199 Honda Accord V6 Coupe shuts of in hot weather

Tiny
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Make: 1999 Honda Accord
model: V6 coupe
mileage: 250,000

During very hot weather my Honda Accord will do something very wierd. The issue is consistent with starting the car in hot weather, driving it a short distance (say to the corner store) and then starting it again.

When you try to start the car the frist time in hot weather the car is fine (NEVER SHUTS OFF) however when you go on a short drive turn off the car and then come back and try to start it the car will start, it will try to "catch" the correct idle speed, and then turn off. I have done some analysis and found the following:
a)95% of the time if I leave the "climate control on (and the fans come on before I start the car) the car will "bottom out and stall". Then I turn of the climate control, press the gas peddle down half way, let go and then start the car. This works (if I turn the climate control on too fast after the car is started and has not settled at the correc idle speed it also shuts off.)
b)If I don't step on the gas peddle and try to start the car (with the climate control on) the car will turn over and act as if their is no gas in it (there is).
c) If I turn off the climate control. Leave the car for 30 seconds or less, the car starts, catchs the correct idle speed and it is fine.

I have taken the car in to the Honda dealership that I have taken this car to for the past 8 years and they have given the car a thorough check and can't find anything. Most think that it is a gas issue but they have ruled this out as they have checked the line. They use to clean out the fuel system until Honda apparently stopped allowing this. They tell me that my fuel system is as clean as a whistle. They say that the fact that this happens only when it is very hot outside, is coincidence (I have a hard time believing this). Second the fact that the climate control is on is also coincidence I am told. What really gets me is that everything is co-incidence but they don't know what the issue is. They checked the computer to see if it needed to be reset and it did not everything was "spec". Regardless they decided to "reset the computer anyway". This did not seem to solve the issue. Help? Could this be a spark plug issue, check-point valve? If so why only when it is really hot outside and after a short drive?
Thursday, June 14th, 2007 AT 12:45 AM

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Tiny
BRUCE HUNT
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I know you would like someone to point right to the problem and offer a solution. Sorry. Here is what I can offer for suggestions. This is no coincidence. Many people have somewhat similar issues. The problem can gas related but I think the cause is electrical and that can be electrical that controls the flow of the fuel. However, becuase the problem is somewhat speratic it can be difficult to find. Is there ever a time when the car fails to start for a period of time and if let set will eventually start?

Thoughts of potential sources of the problem include:
Fuel pressure regulator
Crank sensor
Cam sesnor
TDK senser
Throttle position sensor
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Thursday, June 14th, 2007 AT 8:31 AM
Tiny
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In answer to your question with regard to a time where I would leave the car and it would start on it's own, the answer is an absolute yes! In fact I can do that instead of stepping on the gas peddle. I only have to wait 1 minute or less and then it will start on it's own.
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Thursday, June 14th, 2007 AT 2:06 PM

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