Engine wont start

Tiny
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If inertia switch is OK then inspect fuel pump driver module.


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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:57 PM (Merged)
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JOHNNYREDNECK
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Hooked up autoxray OBD11 no codes. Pulled a plug coil wire off verified pulsing volts at 5 to 7, thought maybe gas gauge was off, added 3 gallons fesh fuel. Same-same turns over all day, no lite -off. If the pump goes out woudnt I get a code showing no fuel delivery. Did not notice any noise from tank, but then again never have before either. Also did quick reset on car alarm / car computer reset no luck. PLEASE HELP. Im an airplane mechanic and most of those systems are easier than a cars
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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Can you check fuel pressure? If you think it is a fuel issue, check the bump switch. The owners manual says it is in the trunk on the left side, behind the trunk lining.

If that is a two wire connector, back probe the circuits with the engine cranking, both wires should be hot. Let us know what you find.

Were you using a scanner or code reader?
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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JOHNNYREDNECK
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The car has sat for the last 2 months. Ran perfect. Wouldnt this switch need setting off. Also auto xray handheld used with no codes produced with a complete scan. Will ck pwr at switch.12 volts at switch. This has to be the quietest electric pump ive ever NOT heard. Will check that pump harness in AM. Should be 12 volts at the connection if so I know the pump has taken a dump. THANX for the help.I will post what fix was.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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You could try reseting the bump switch. Also, I thought that might be the easiest place to start checking for voltage at the rear. Have a helper crank the engine.

If this vehicle has electronic returnless fuel system, there should be a fuel pressure PID on the scanner.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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Got 12 volts at switch. Doesnt look like its tripped. Next is the harness for the fuel pump. Thers a q/d aft of the tank, I will check for voltage there. Any info on pump changes if thats the culprit. Internal or external
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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I wouldn't replace anything, without checking fuel pressure. I asked about that in the first post. My hearing is no good, I can't listen for the pump. I have to check fuel pressure and amp draw for the pump.

I just wanted to add, the voltage and ground for the fuel pump motor comes through the pump driver module. You have to have both voltage and ground or the pump motor won't run. I believe the ground is a duty cycle, switched on and off. If there is something wrong with the system, a code should have set. Whether it will or not is a different story.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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Have 12 volts at pump disconnect just aft of tank, also fwd rh fuel rail has pressure valve like a valve core of a tire. No pressure at all. Scanned until blue in the face. Nocodes and scan successful message. No stored codes nothing
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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My car will not start. We tested the battery, alternator and the starter. We replaced the battery terminals. What else could be the problem
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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Is there a relay for the pump or the sending unit. Im buying a book today for sure. Called just to see a shop charge on pump changeout-$700 that aint happening
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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Pick your symptoms and get back with some testing results

Cranks but no start condition:

Get a helper disconnect a sparkplug wire or 2 and ground it to the engine at least 3/16 away from ground -have helper crank engine over-do you have a snapping blue spark? If so-you have a fuel related problem, check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel filter/fuel pump/pressure regulator and listen to the injector/s are they pulsing or hook up a noid light. No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil packs, coil's resistances, distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors and computer Note: If it doesn't apply disregard it.

If both fuel and spark is present-check the valve and ignition timing, this will lead you to problems
with compression and valves opening and closing at the wrong time/broken or jumped timing
belt/chain.

No crank at all/nothing/nada:

Could be the starter, starter relay, park and neutral switch/clutch switch and ignition switch assuming the battery and connections are good
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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D3FT0N3S23
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My 2000 mustang will not start after sitting for a month. It just had a tune up, has a good battery and has gas. What should I do?
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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All "crank, no start" conditions are approached in the same way. Every engine requires certain functions to be able to run. Some of these functions rely on specific components to work and some components are part of more than one function so it is important to see the whole picture to be able to conclude anything about what may have failed. Also, these functions can ONLY be tested during the failure. Any other time and they will simply test good because the problem isn't present at the moment.
If you approach this in any other way, you are merely guessing and that only serves to replace unnecessary parts and wastes money.

Every engine requires spark, fuel and compression to run. That's what we have to look for.

These are the basics that need to be tested and will give us the info required to isolate a cause.

1) Test for spark at the plug end of the wire using a spark tester. If none found, check for power supply on the + terminal of the coil with the key on.

2) Test for injector pulse using a small bulb called a noid light. If none found, check for power supply at one side of the injector with the key on.

3) Use a fuel pressure gauge to test for correct fuel pressure, also noticing if the pressure holds when key is shut off.

4) If all of these things check good, then you would need to do a complete compression test.

Once you have determined which of these functions has dropped out,
you will know which system is having the problem.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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JWINKLER
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2000 mustang gt - sitting for 3 months. Car will not start, just turn over. In the KOEO position, no sound from the fuel pump and no fuel pressure in at the schrader valve. I am getting 12 volts KOEO across the inertia switch (unplugged inertia switch and measured voltage across the two wires in the connector). Cranking the voltage drops to 9.5 volts. Is the fuel pump dead or is this an electrical problem?
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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I had the same exact problem. I have 2000 Mustang GT with 57,000 miles which was parked for 2 months and it will not start. I had it taken to dealer who confirmed dead fuel pump. No pressure in the line.

Had to replace fuel pump.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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I was driving myh car all of a sudden there was a loud squelling noise coming from engenie and my oil perssure went all the way in the red to high then the car stalled out and now will not turn over, please help me some one said it may be a fuse the previous owner told me it could be a fuse becuase this has happened before.
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
CJ MEDEVAC
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Say it won't turn over

Let rule out "seized up"

"key off"

See if you can rotate the engine with a wrench--one full revolution (or more). Put a mark on your harmonic balancer so you will know when you get there

I demonstrate in pic, with my jeep cj 5 engine

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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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Could it be the oil pressure gauge, the first thing that happend was my oil pressure went high then the car stalled I changed oil car started then about 15 minutes later oil gauge jumped up and down and then up and car stalled out now wont turn over at all
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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
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CJ MEDEVAC
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Need your info

How 'bout checking your battery voltage w/ a digital voltmeter

The gauge itself is not killing the vehicle

Voltage is a big question here---if it's low, do not jump it off----remove it and recharge the battery out of the vehicle---or replace it w/ a fully charged one

This may also reset your computer (still glitching 'cause battery has not been disconnected) a fully charged one will reset it---then have battery and charging system tested immediately, most auto parts stores will load test and fully test the system for free.

Keep us informed

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Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 AT 6:58 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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My car is a 2000 mustang gt automatic, I bought the car last year and it was running fine, up until the end of october then the oil pressure gauge jumped up to the red and it stalled we came home changed oil and filter again and started the car everything was fine we let the car run and it started to making this sqealling noise and then just shut down the car wont start at all now, some one had told me it could be a fuse issue im not sure im doing all this on my own and I dont know too much about cars im a girl with no males to help me and need my car fixed thank you.
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