ESC module code

Tiny
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I am getting a ESC module code but it is new computer is new all sensors are new. It will run okay and sometimes it surges while under acceleration was really bad unroll. I changed computer now it fairly happens and only for a second, but still cannot get rid of the ESC module code.
Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 AT 10:09 AM

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Tiny
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Good afternoon.

What is the code?

I need that to help you with this issue. There is a ESC module by the throttle body but need to confirm the failure.

Roy
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Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 AT 1:25 PM
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Here is a picture for you of the wire diagram for the circuit.

Check the fuse listed for power on both sides.

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Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 AT 1:27 PM
Tiny
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Code 43.
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Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 AT 2:16 PM
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Information for you.

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION:
The Knock Sensor (KS) system has a module that sends a voltage signal to the ECM. As the KS detects detonation, the voltage from the KS module to the ECM will drop. This signal allows the ECM to retard timing. The ECM will retard the timing when knock is detected and rpm is above 900 rpm. Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) 43 will set when the ECM has detected low voltage at CKT 457 on terminal "B7" for longer than 5 seconds with the engine operating or when the system has failed the functional check. The ECM continually monitors voltage on CKT 457 on terminal "B7."
The ECM will advance the spark timing when:

Engine coolant temperature is above 95°C.
Engine is under heavy load (near WOT).

Test chart

CHART TEST DESCRIPTION
Number(s) below refer to circled number(s) on the diagnostic chart.

1. If a DTC 43 is not set, but a knock signal is indicated while operating at 1500 rpm, listen for an internal engine noise. Under a no load condition there should not be any detonation, if knock is indicated, an internal engine problem may exist.

2. Usually a knock signal can be generated by tapping on the right exhaust manifold. This test can also be performed at idle. Test Number 1 was run at 1500 rpm to determine if a constant knock signal was present, affecting engine performance.

3. This tests whether the knock signal is due to the sensor, a basic engine problem, or the KS module.

4. If the module ground circuit is faulty, the KS module will not function correctly. The test light should light indicating the ground circuit is OK.

5. Contacting CKT 496 with a test light to 12 volts should generate a knock signal to determine whether the knock sensor is faulty, or the KS module can't recognize a knock signal.

DIAGNOSTIC AIDS
Scan tools may be used to diagnose the KS system. The knock signal can be monitored to see if the knock sensor is detecting a knock condition and if the KS module is functioning, knock signal should display "YES, " whenever detonation is present. The ECM can retard the timing up to 20 degrees.

If the KS system checks OK, but detonation is the complaint, refer to Diagnosis By Symptom / Detonation, Spark Knock See: Computers and Control Systems > Symptom Related Diagnostic Procedures > Detonation/Spark Knock/Pings
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Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 AT 2:21 PM
Tiny
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Knock sensor is the only thing that has not been replaced. I just did not see it making that much of a problem when it does it it is almost like a bad IAC valve. It surges and looses all power and seems like it is not at full power ever like it is running with the timing retarded all the time. I have checked timing several times and went through wiring and it is not a all the time thing it is only here and there. I will try to check it Tomorrow on lunch or just replace it.
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Thursday, May 3rd, 2018 AT 6:40 PM
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The knock sensor will not cause surging at idle. The surging idle is either a vacuum leak, check around the base of the throttle body, or a idle air control valve.

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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 4:16 AM
Tiny
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It runs fine at idle just not at low rpm and occasionally at high rpm's like when you go to pass somebody.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 5:49 AM
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And it does not seem like the transmission knows what gear it should be in.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 5:49 AM
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Okay.

If it is when it is moving, look for possible catalytic converter blocked, low fuel pressure or EGR valve opening and closing.

As far as the transmission, it could definitely cause the surging as well.

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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 5:51 AM
Tiny
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No catalytic converters and good fuel pressure EGR is working correctly no vacuum leaks. I am at a loss. It does it more so before engine is warmed up. Also, I have replaced both coolant sensors.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 5:54 AM
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Starting to think it is not motor related that it is in the transmission somewhere.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 5:55 AM
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Very possible. You could try manually shifting it and see if it still does it.

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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 6:06 AM
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I am confused as to why it only does it occasionally.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 7:05 AM
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It was constant until I put a new ECM in it then stopped for a week now it does it rarely when first taking off or at high rpm's, but does not do it long.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 7:12 AM
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Why did you replace the ECM?

ECM fail for a reason. If the reason is not found it will fail again.

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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 7:28 AM
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I have not found any reason it failed. There were some sensors that had bad wiring but I fixed all that before putting in the new ECM and new ground straps.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 7:44 AM
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Did you follow all the ohm checks in the instructions with the new ECM to check for shorted solenoids? That is the main reason they fail.

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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 7:46 AM
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No I did not. There was nothing with the ECM they swapped the chips out from my old ECM to the new one and gave it to me.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 7:47 AM
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There is a check sheet in the box that gives you pins to check with an ohmmeter for specific resistance values. It sounds like they did a sway for you but never gave you those instructions.

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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 8:34 AM
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Yes, they kept the box so I just stuck the new ECM in and went.
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Friday, May 4th, 2018 AT 8:48 AM

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