Engine overheating

Tiny
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  • 2001 TOYOTA AVALON
  • 3.0L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 140,000 MILES
I found a crack in the top of the radiator so I replaced the radiator and both upper and lower radiator hoses. I refilled with coolant and water and let the engine idle to check for leaks and to watch the temperature gauge. Everything appeared fine until I drove the vehicle several miles. The engine once again overheated and blew both hot water and steam from the overflow bottle. What else might be my problem?
Wednesday, December 11th, 2019 AT 8:11 AM

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Tiny
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Today I made sure the vehicle was topped of with water and let the engine idle until getting warm. The heat gauge would only get to 1/4 so I revved the engine to about 2500 rpm and the heat gauge moved to about half way. It seemed fine so I drove the vehicle about two blocks and it again began to get very hot and by the time I got back to the house the gauge was moving to the red very quickly. Why would the engine remain at seemingly normal operating temperature until you put it in gear and began driving?
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Wednesday, December 11th, 2019 AT 4:33 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

What are the outside temps where you are located? That can play a factor. If it is cold, at an idle the system may be able to keep it cool. Once a load is placed on the engine, it will produce more heat and at that point heat up.

You mentioned that you made sure the coolant was full. Is it presently using coolant? Have you noticed any white smoke from the exhaust?

Let me know these things. Chances are you simply need to replace the thermostat and I would recommend flushing the system at the same time. However, I need the answers to the two aforementioned questions first. Once I know, I can better direct you

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, December 11th, 2019 AT 8:26 PM
Tiny
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It is cool but not cold. Probably between 50 and 55 degrees outside. It presently has a mixture of coolant and water. When I replaced the radiator I added a new gallon of antifreeze and then top off with water. I did not notice any white smoke coming from the exhaust but it was dark outside at the time. I will check that tomorrow.
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Wednesday, December 11th, 2019 AT 10:30 PM
Tiny
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There is no white smoke coming from the exhaust. The vehicle belongs to my daughter and son-in-law. There had been no indication the vehicle had been loosing coolant until the radiator cracked.
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Thursday, December 12th, 2019 AT 11:40 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Here is what I suggest. With the engine cold, remove the rad cap and start the engine. Does the water / coolant shoot from the radiator? If not and there is no evidence of air bubbles in the coolant, I would replace the thermostat. The reason behind checking if coolant shoots out is this. If the head gasket is bad, it's possible for compressed air to get into the cooling system. I also wanted to ask if the radiator cap was replaced?

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Take a look through this link. It discusses what to look for if you question a head gasket related issue.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

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If you check the things indicated in the above link and find no issues, I would replace the thermostat.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-an-engine-thermostat-works

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-thermostat

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Here are directions specific to this vehicle for checking and replacing the thermostat. The attached pics correlate with the directions.

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2001 Toyota Avalon XL V6-3.0L (1MZ-FE)
Procedures
Vehicle Engine, Cooling and Exhaust Cooling System Thermostat Service and Repair Procedures
PROCEDURES

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REMOVAL

HINT: Removal of the thermostat would have an adverse effect, causing a lowering of cooling efficiency. Do not remove the thermostat, even if the engine tends to overheat.

1. DRAIN ENGINE COOLANT

pic 1

2. REMOVE V-BANK COVER
a. Using a 5 mm hexagon wrench, remove the 3 cap nuts.
b. Loosen the V-bank cover fastener counterclockwise.
c. Remove the V-bank cover.
3. WARM UP ENGINE
Allow the engine to warm up to normal operating temperature.
4. REMOVE AIR CLEANER HOSE WITH RESONATOR
5. DISCONNECT HEATER HOSES
6. DISCONNECT NO.2 ECT SWITCH CONNECTOR

pic 2

7. DISCONNECT ENGINE WIRE PROTECTOR FROM WATER INLET AND RH CYLINDER HEAD
Remove the nut and disconnect the clamp, and disconnect the engine wire protector from the water inlet and cylinder head.

pic 3

8. DISCONNECT WATER INLET PIPE FROM WATER INLET AND LH CYLINDER HEAD
a. Remove the bolt, and disconnect the inlet pipe from the water inlet.
b. Remove the O-ring from the inlet pipe.

pic 4

9. REMOVE WATER INLET AND THERMOSTAT
a. Remove the 3 nuts, water inlet and thermostat.
b. Remove the gasket from the thermostat.

INSPECTION
INSPECT THERMOSTAT

pic 5

HINT: The thermostat is numbered with the valve opening temperature.

pic 6

a. Immerse the thermostat in water and gradually heat the water.
b. Check the valve opening temperature.
Valve opening temperature: 80 - 84°C (176 - 183°F)
If the valve opening temperature is not as specified, replace the thermostat.

pic 7

c. Check the valve lift.
Valve lift: 10.0 mm (0.394 inch) or more at 95°C (203°F)
If the valve lift is not as specified, replace the thermostat.
d. Check that the valve is fully closed when the thermostat is at low temperatures (below 40°C (104°F)). If not closed, replace the thermostat.

INSTALLATION
1. PLACE THERMOSTAT IN WATER PUMP
a. Install a new gasket on to the thermostat.

pic 8

b. Align the thermostat jiggle valve with the upper stud bolt, and insert the thermostat in the water inlet housing.

HINT: The jiggle valve may be set within 15° of either side of the prescribed position.

2. INSTALL WATER INLET
Install the water inlet with the 3 nuts.
Torque: 8 Nm (80 kgf-cm, 69 inch lbs.)
3. INSTALL WATER INLET PIPE
a. Install a new O-ring to the water inlet pipe.
b. Apply soapy water to the O-ring.
c. Connect the water inlet pipe to the water inlet.
d. Install the bolt holding the water inlet pipe to the LH cylinder head.
Torque: 19.5 Nm (200 kgf-cm, 14 ft. lbs.)
4. INSTALL ENGINE WIRE PROTECTOR
5. CONNECT NO.2 ECT SWITCH CONNECTOR
6. CONNECT HEATER HOSES
7. REINSTALL AIR CLEANER HOSE WITH RESONATOR
8. INSTALL V-BANK COVER
a. Using 5 mm hexagon wrench, install the V-bank cover with the 3 cap nuts.
b. Press down the V-bank cover fastener.
9. FILL WITH ENGINE COOLANT
10. START ENGINE AND CHECK FOR LEAKS
11. RECHECK ENGINE COOLANT LEVEL

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Let me know if this helps or if you have questions.

Joe
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Thursday, December 12th, 2019 AT 4:22 PM
Tiny
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Hello Joe,

I replaced the thermostat and that appears to have solved my problem. I thank you and appreciate your knowledgeable assistance, especially your step by step instructions for removal of the thermostat.
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Friday, December 13th, 2019 AT 4:15 PM
Tiny
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Not a problem. I'm glad it took care of the problem. Let us know if you need help in the future. These are great cars, but everything breaks. LOL

Have a good weekend.

Joe
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Friday, December 13th, 2019 AT 6:26 PM

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