Engine management light issue

Tiny
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  • 2014 NISSAN X-TRAIL
  • 1.6L
  • 4 CYL
  • TURBO
  • 4WD
  • MANUAL
  • 40,000 MILES
Vehicle listed above has a 1.6 diesel. The engine management light is now constantly on. The car starts and runs well, and as its only been used for short journeys for the past 18 months, I was told it might be a DPF filter problem. Went for a 50 mile drive maintaining 2,500 RPMs to try regenerating the filter but it made no difference. During this drive the stop-start (Auto) warning constantly flashed on the lower part of the dash, when I tried to use the cruise control it lit up on the dash but didn’t actually engage, and the throttle had a dead spot at around 2,225 RPMs in 5th gear while accelerating. There might be no connection between these symptoms but I would be grateful for any ideas or suggestions you might have please.
Saturday, March 6th, 2021 AT 7:32 AM

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Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello, I'm Danny.

The first thing I would do is perform a CAN scan. It will check all the systems on your car and possible codes it may have stored for these issues you are having. Here is a tutorial showing what is involved with a CAN scan:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/can-scan-controller-area-network-easy

Once you have this performed get back to us with any code information that was stored in your vehicle's computer and we can then properly diagnose. After that we can also provide you with diagnostics steps. Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.
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Saturday, March 6th, 2021 AT 2:09 PM
Tiny
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Hi Danny, thank you for your reply.

The dashboard now shows two messages:

(1) Stop/Start System Fault.
(2) Chassis control System Fault.

I’ve now bought an OBDII scanner, the scan results show:

1. P242F Particulate filter restriction Ash Accumulation (Current)
2. P0380 Glow plug/Heater circuit A (Current)
3. P242F Particulate filter restriction Ash Accumulation (Pending)
4. P0380 Glow plug/Heater circuit A (Pending)
5. P0191 Fuel rail pressure sensor A Circuit range/performance (Pending)
6. P242F Particulate filter restriction Ash Accumulation (Permanent)

Thanks in advance for your help.
Tobro
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Tuesday, March 9th, 2021 AT 5:52 AM
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Hi,

I noted we haven't heard from you for a couple days. I was wondering if any progress has been made or if you needed additional help. If possible, let us know. We are interested in knowing.

Take care,
Joe
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 3:04 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Thanks for your reply. I did the scan as in my reply posted the 9th March.
There were 3 faults listed:
1. P242F Particulate filter restriction Ash Accumulation (Current)
2. P0380 Glow plug/Heater circuit A (Current)
5. P0191 Fuel rail pressure sensor A Circuit range/performance (Pending)
There were duplicate listings as (Pending) and (Permanent)
3. P242F Particulate filter restriction Ash Accumulation (Pending)
4. P0380 Glow plug/Heater circuit A (Pending)
5. P0191 Fuel rail pressure sensor A Circuit range/performance (Pending)
6. P242F Particulate filter restriction Ash Accumulation (Permanent)

I'd like to do some of the work myself but I think I'll have to book it in with Nissan as I can’t get the Particulate Filter to regenerate.
Thanks again.
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 3:48 PM
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DANNY L
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Hello again.

I've attached some descriptions on the code information you provided.

P242F Description The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) monitors the pressure decrease at the diesel particulate filter following a diesel particulate filter regeneration for a concern. The PCM calculates the amount of ash and the pressure increase the ash generates in the diesel particulate filter. During a regeneration the PCM expects the pressure to decrease. The amount of pressure decrease expected by the PCM is based on the temperature and flow of the exhaust gas. The test fails when the pressure reading at the diesel particulate filter pressure sensor does not decrease by the amount determined by the PCM.

P242F Possible Causes What does this mean? Diesel particulate filter is full of ash Damaged diesel particulate filter pressure sensor Faulty Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) harness is open or shorted Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) circuit poor electrical connection Faulty Mass Air Flow (MAF) / Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor

The P0380 trouble code notes an issue with the glow plug heater circuit A.

What the P0380 code means
The P0380 code is a standard OBD-II trouble code suggesting an issue within the glow plug heater circuit. When the powertrain control module (PCM) detects a variation in the voltage from the “A” area of the glow plug heater circuit that is more than a 10 percent variation from the expected output, the P0380 code will be detected. This code is associated with numerous other glow plug trouble codes.

What causes the P0380 code?
Many things can trigger the P0380 code. Some of the more common issues include:

Malfunctioning glow plug or relay
Faulty glow plug timer
Faulty glow plug module
Blown fuse in the circuit
Faulty wiring and electrical connectors, such as corroded connectors or open

What the P0191 code means
The power control module (PCM) regulates the amount of fuel that is released into the combustion chambers by controlling the fuel injectors. This process works to reduce tailpipe emissions. In order to work effectively, the power control module must always know what the fuel pressure is. If the fuel rail pressure sensor is giving inconsistent readings, the power control module (PCM) will store the P0191 trouble code.

What causes the P0191 code?
Faulty fuel pressure sensor
Faulty fuel pressure sensor circuit
Faulty fuel pressure sensor connector
Faulty fuel pressure regulator
What are the symptoms of the P0191 code?
Check Engine Light on
Decrease in fuel economy
Engine may be stalling or hesitation
Engine may cut off when the vehicle stops
Unusual smell emitting from the tail pipe
No noticeable symptoms
Trouble codes P0171 and/or P0172 stored in the power control module
What repairs can fix the P0191 code?
Replacing the fuel pump
Replacing the fuel pressure regulator
Repairing any broken, frayed, or shorted wires that lead to the fuel pressure sensor
Repairing corroded connector to the fuel pressure sensor
Replacing fuel pressure sensor
Repairing any vacuum leaks in the engine

Hope this helps and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

Danny-
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 8:16 PM
Tiny
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Hi Danny.

Thanks for your reply. I was hoping for something simple. The car has about 40,000 miles on the clock now and I wouldn’t know where to begin with that list, so it looks like a trip to the main agent.
I haven’t had to work on a car since before they started putting computers in them, and even if I knew where to begin It’d probably involve a small fortune investment in tools, so I’m just handing my wallet over and hoping for the best. Thanks again for the diagnosis, it’s good to know what’s wrong in advance. :)
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Friday, March 12th, 2021 AT 1:53 AM
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DANNY L
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Hello again.

Okay, Keep us updated as to what happens for the repairs. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

Danny-
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Friday, March 12th, 2021 AT 2:20 AM

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