Engine losses power or shuts off?

Tiny
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  • 2003 DODGE DAKOTA
  • 4.8L
  • V8
  • 2WD
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  • 193,000 MILES
Okay, so, I bought an old truck from a “friend” loosely used... To fix up with my son when he turned 16, biggest mistake ever. He said the truck was good and just needed the engine rebuilt. I bought the truck and rebuilt the engine. The engine runs great. Test drive truck runs good. Once the engine heats up, the problem begins. Drive out of the yard right after cold start plenty of power and shifts fine. Once you drive and it heats up... If you stay under 2k RPM. Drives ok. More throttle, more crazy... “Around” 2k as downshifting to passing gear or up to 3rd shifting will not shift or shift correctly. If you let off gas and careful may shift or it may jump up and down in RPMS like it’s gonna shift but goes back and forth. If you step on it acts like you didn’t even press gas petal or like too much gas. Let off and it’s ok. Has died a few times during this exercise. Fires right back up no backfire or anything. When it’s acting up put in neutral and revs/runs fine. Only trouble is with load on engine. Tried running ac and other load devices to “strain” engine and no problem. I have changed trans fluid, filters, all three sensors in transmission. No change. Erg valve, checked for vacuum leaks, new fuel pump, compression check, coil and spark plugs. All good now. The one thing that I think it may be... Changed out hose from rear of engine to egr valve with “non-automotive” hose. Thinking it may be getting hot and collapsing? Causing vacuum problem? Gonna try replacing that if I can find replacement hose. Anyway took to a transmission shop. He said pressure sensor (which I already replaced) is throwing codes. He replaced, quick program... No change. Told me to bring it back when his boss gets back next week. More I think about it thinking maybe not even a trans issue. Help! Please!
Saturday, November 5th, 2022 AT 1:34 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Do you have a scan tool that can read codes from the can-bus? Your thoughts of the hose collapsing may be happening, but it shouldn't be causing this to happen. Well, I guess anything is possible.

If possible, have the can-bus scanned. CAN stands for controller area network. Basically, the different computers/modules are tied together via a few wires. This type of scan will retrieve codes regardless of the module storing them.

Here is a link that shows how it's done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/can-scan-controller-area-network-easy

Also, was the crankshaft position sensor replaced? When they start to fail, they can be adversely affected by heat. Also, the engine coolant temp sensor is used by the ECM to determine the air/fuel ratio. If it isn't working properly, it could be causing issues when it warms up.

Let me know.

Joe
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Saturday, November 5th, 2022 AT 11:21 PM
Tiny
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Wow, I have my work cut out for me... Can scanner? Not sure. My scanner is obd2. Can scan individual modules... About 8-10 I’m guessing. Maybe “warms up” was a little overstated. Not getting all the way up to temperature when it starts per say. A little different every time. I see you can post stills pics on here, is there a way to post a video on here? If a pic is worth a thousand words a video has to be in the millions! Anyway, going to go out and see if I can get some answers for you. Thanks so much.
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Sunday, November 6th, 2022 AT 1:05 PM
Tiny
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I’d focus more on the RPM’s than the heat. That seems to be consistent. I just threw the heat thing in to see what you thought about heat making that hose soft.
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Sunday, November 6th, 2022 AT 1:07 PM
Tiny
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No sir, the Crankshaft position sensor has not been replaced... I think I replaced the Engine coolant temperature sensor, about 80% sure. I know the thermostat has been. Also... Might add... This has the 5rwe transmission... All electronic. The way he had it sitting out in the field I was also thinking maybe something in the control wiring... From the ECM to the trans... The more I read and dummy myself up, I just don’t think it’s the transmission. I was thinking that but it has no bands or anything. All gears... If something in there fails wouldn’t it be all the time failed? I did read about a known “weak” “low quality from the factory” bearing in the #2 slot (I think) of the throttle body in the trans that allows fluid to pass during passing gear and up shifting. Fix was Need to replace bearings with “high quality” bearings... However, you know how “dodge forums” can be. Everyone thinks they are mechanics because they own a vehicle! Me included apparently! Lol, actually that’s why I’m here talking to the pros! Just trying to give all the info.
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Sunday, November 6th, 2022 AT 1:17 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I'm not familiar with a bearing issue, but anything is possible, Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there are no codes, correct?

The only concrete code we had was from the transmission shop indicating a pressure sensor. By chance, do you know the code? Not being there makes this difficult for me because I'm not sure if it is engine or transmission related. I'm wondering if there is an issue with a partially plugged transmission cooler.

Let me know if you have a record of the code he found. I want to look into that further.

Take care,

Joe
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Sunday, November 6th, 2022 AT 7:41 PM

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