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Crank not start, engine fuse blowing?

Tiny
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  • 1995 DODGE RAM
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I have been having stalling issues, so the code was clutch solenoid switch replaced that and distributor cap and button and now this every crank no start.
Tuesday, July 26th, 2022 AT 7:26 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Which fuse is failing? Also, when you say clutch solenoid switch, are you referring to the torque converter clutch solenoid? Also, does the fuse fail as soon as it's installed, or do you have to crank the engine for it to fail?

Let me know.

Take care,

Joe
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Tuesday, July 26th, 2022 AT 10:15 PM
Tiny
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#9 full crank then fuse blows n.
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Wednesday, July 27th, 2022 AT 10:34 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I attached a pic from the wiring schematic below. Fuse 9 powers several relays in addition to the PCM. It could be any of the circuits that have a short.

Here is what I need you to do: Remove one relay at a time and see if the fuse doesn't fail with one of them out. This way, we can narrow down where the issue is coming from.

Let me know what you find.

Joe

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Thursday, July 28th, 2022 AT 12:44 PM
Tiny
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10-4. Thanks, i'll let you know.
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Saturday, July 30th, 2022 AT 10:43 PM
Tiny
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Ignition Run / Acc is the culprit.
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Sunday, July 31st, 2022 AT 5:52 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I just went through four different schematics and can't find a relay with that specific name. Are you referring to the ASD relay?

When I work back through the schematic, I find a fuse that sends power to the ignition switch (ign/acc) but that goes to the ignition switch and then to the schematic above. By chance, do you mean the fuse was bad?

Let me know.

Joe
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Sunday, July 31st, 2022 AT 10:05 PM
Tiny
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I took out that fuse and the #9 didnt blow upon crank on the pdc The fuse isnt bad either
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Monday, August 1st, 2022 AT 8:23 PM
Tiny
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Okay, then we need to remove one of the relays at a time to see which one is causing it to fail when you try starting it. Fuse 9 powers the relays.

If you look at the schematic above, I highlighted the relays involved.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, August 2nd, 2022 AT 12:50 PM
Tiny
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Ignition switch spring is out of shape and might be arcing behind key cylinder.
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Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022 AT 1:08 AM
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Hi,

That is very possible. I don't know if you need them, but I attached the directions for the removal and replacement of the switch.

Take a look through them and let me know if you have questions.

Take care and let me know how things turn out for you.

Joe

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Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022 AT 7:01 PM
Tiny
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Still blowing fuse 9. After. New ignition switch. What accessories would cause this problem? The fuse that I took out was ignition//acc.
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Thursday, August 11th, 2022 AT 9:58 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Does it fail as soon as the battery is connected, or do you need to turn the key on for it to happen?

If it fails when the battery is connected, the short is before the switch. If you have to turn the key on, then it's after. Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, August 11th, 2022 AT 1:45 PM
Tiny
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When I turn the key to start. I changed the battery wire with a split battery wire with a pointy connector on the post. And the connection on the split is way larger than the black wire it connected to. With no crimp. Or solder just twist and electric tape?
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Thursday, August 11th, 2022 AT 7:43 PM
Tiny
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I would solder the connection, also I would disconnect the oxygen sensors to see if the fuse blows, then the ignition coil(s) then each injector until the fuse doesn't blow.
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Friday, August 12th, 2022 AT 10:40 AM
Tiny
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Okay my crankshaft sensor was. Fried. Seven parts ago, could my distributor be bad?
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Saturday, August 13th, 2022 AT 6:46 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Have you been able to make any more progress? As far as the distributor itself is concerned, I don't feel that would be the issue. Have you been able to try what Ken suggested?

Joe
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Sunday, August 14th, 2022 AT 7:11 PM
Tiny
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Tomorrow, I'll try them, I bought a coolant temperature sensor because the temperature gauge quit working the day before the Fuse problem. My keyboard on my phone is acting up I apologize for the capital letters and apostrophes.
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Sunday, August 14th, 2022 AT 10:46 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

No problem with the letter issue. LOL Thanks for the update. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help.

Take care,

Joe
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Monday, August 15th, 2022 AT 6:48 PM
Tiny
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I have no clue on how to disconnect the injectors.
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Friday, August 26th, 2022 AT 3:57 PM
Tiny
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The fuel rail needs to be removed first. I attached directions below specific to your vehicle. Make sure the battery is disconnected before you start and keep in mind the system is under pressure.

Also, here is a link that I feel is more detailed. However, it isn't specific to your vehicle. Between the two, you should be fine.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-fuel-injector

Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe

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Friday, August 26th, 2022 AT 7:28 PM

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